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Ive been trading for 3 yrs (laptop) been thru all the rookie stuff by now. I can appreciate waiting for the rite moment & dont have the desire to trade all day to catch every move.

I believe I got my plan down to a simple approach..and after trying dozens of methods I like the camarilla pivots.

My entry is after a "close" above H3 level & a "close" below L3 level and thats it! This has me trading alot less & with higher probablility.

I observe price action inbetween H3 & L3 levels and watch the whipsaw that goes on, thus recognising floor traders piting againts retail traders...yes a handfull of times in that zone price does move smoothly, which makes it tempting sometimes.

Now according to Nick Scott, a bond trader in the 80's, creator of the SureFireThing Camarilla Equation...

says when price breaks H3 or L3 levels, which is derived by previous days Open High Low & Close, is when hedge fund & Inst. traders are waiting on, thats when they come in. Those levels are the same no matter what time frame or tick frick or lick..dont matter...High % of the time she takes off from there.

Ive been trading YM because of the risk factor is less verses TF 5$ vs 10$ but on friday the break w/ YM wasnt that great vs TF see attached. Im gonna start loging my trades each day begining monday.

Oh yea..I use a 7 & 4 range and a confirmed close w/ the 7 range before entry.

Im not currently using the SureFireThing Camarilla but a free version..I dont kno if anyones used it before who's in this forum?

See my journal continuation on monday.
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Ive been trading for 3 yrs (laptop) been thru all the rookie stuff by now. I can appreciate waiting for the rite moment & dont have the desire to trade all day to catch every move.

I believe I got my plan down to a simple approach..and after trying dozens of methods I like the camarilla pivots.

My entry is after a "close" above H3 level & a "close" below L3 level and thats it! This has me trading alot less & with higher probablility.

I observe price action inbetween H3 & L3 levels and watch the whipsaw that goes on, thus recognising floor traders piting againts retail traders...yes a handfull of times in that zone price does move smoothly, which makes it tempting sometimes.

Now according to Nick Scott, a bond trader in the 80's, creator of the SureFireThing Camarilla Equation...

says when price breaks H3 or L3 levels, which is derived by previous days Open High Low & Close, is when hedge fund & Inst. traders are waiting on, thats when they come in. Those levels are the same no matter what time frame or tick frick or lick..dont matter...High % of the time she takes off from there.

Ive been trading YM because of the risk factor is less verses TF 5$ vs 10$ but on friday the break w/ YM wasnt that great vs TF see attached. Im gonna start loging my trades each day begining monday.

Oh yea..I use a 7 & 4 range and a confirmed close w/ the 7 range before entry.

Im not currently using the SureFireThing Camarilla but a free version..I dont kno if anyones used it before who's in this forum?

See my journal continuation on monday.
Bill

Not trying to comment to myself..somehow I replaced 1st pic w/ the 2nd one...so heres TF break out of H3 on friday and see the YM wasnt much on its break out, not always the case.

I may talk to myself but quating myself is a 1st lol..if u hear me answer myself back then be weary

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Ive been trading for 3 yrs (laptop) been thru all the rookie stuff by now. I can appreciate waiting for the rite moment & dont have the desire to trade all day to catch every move.

I believe I got my plan down to a simple approach..and after trying dozens of methods I like the camarilla pivots.

My entry is after a "close" above H3 level & a "close" below L3 level and thats it! This has me trading alot less & with higher probablility.

I observe price action inbetween H3 & L3 levels and watch the whipsaw that goes on, thus recognising floor traders piting againts retail traders...yes a handfull of times in that zone price does move smoothly, which makes it tempting sometimes.

Now according to Nick Scott, a bond trader in the 80's, creator of the SureFireThing Camarilla Equation...

says when price breaks H3 or L3 levels, which is derived by previous days Open High Low & Close, is when hedge fund & Inst. traders are waiting on, thats when they come in. Those levels are the same no matter what time frame or tick frick or lick..dont matter...High % of the time she takes off from there.

Ive been trading YM because of the risk factor is less verses TF 5$ vs 10$ but on friday the break w/ YM wasnt that great vs TF see attached. Im gonna start loging my trades each day begining monday.

Oh yea..I use a 7 & 4 range and a confirmed close w/ the 7 range before entry.

Im not currently using the SureFireThing Camarilla but a free version..I dont kno if anyones used it before who's in this forum?

See my journal continuation on monday.
Bill

Congratulations on starting a public journal. It can be hard to post on losing days so make sure do post both good and bad...

Now a question. In your introductory statement, you said you only traded with the Camarilla Pivots...a close above or below the H3 or L3......why then are all the other indicators necessary? The oscillator at the bottom? Is it needed to determine a close above or below? How about the BB's, do those help show a close above or below? And the moving averages....I'm not sure if they show a close above or below any clearer......not trying to disparage you, but the chart is really busy compared to the statement you only trade above/below the #3 levels.....just wondering.

Sorry the first visitor post is one that questions you but I read the post and was pretty surprised by all the indicators. I expected to see a more or less naked chart...

Good luck....

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The whole oscillator set at the bottom looks like Woodies CCI with "chopzone" and "sidewinder" multicolor lines. I tried it long while ago and gave up on it especially when I heard about Dr. Famir.

Thanks for the interesting info about institutions at Camarilla H3 and L3 levels.

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Congratulations on starting a public journal. It can be hard to post on losing days so make sure do post both good and bad...

Now a question. In your introductory statement, you said you only traded with the Camarilla Pivots...a close above or below the H3 or L3......why then are all the other indicators necessary? The oscillator at the bottom? Is it needed to determine a close above or below? How about the BB's, do those help show a close above or below? And the moving averages....I'm not sure if they show a close above or below any clearer......not trying to disparage you, but the chart is really busy compared to the statement you only trade above/below the #3 levels.....just wondering.

Sorry the first visitor post is one that questions you but I read the post and was pretty surprised by all the indicators. I expected to see a more or less naked chart...

Good luck....

You are absolutely right..now funny thing is just before I logged in today (sunday) I remade both charts w/out any of those indicators except for a 55ema.


I was thinking about the same thing, if I truly am going to trigger in after a close, say above H3 on both charts, why should I allow distractions to myself w/ all that noise? And for now I want to track TF because more volume & definite action as compared to YM.


Actually your questions confirm that Im on the rite track w/ my own questioning, healthy criticism, well not even criticism just straight forward honest questions of one another is what will make us all better traders.


Here's my new screen shot that I just finished before coming on BM's..honestly I just completed few min's before coming on...& am like..wow..Im a believer of universe or someone bigger showing us signs that whether were on the rite track or not...to me ur post is more evidence confirming Im doing the rite things.

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The whole oscillator set at the bottom looks like Woodies CCI with "chopzone" and "sidewinder" multicolor lines. I tried it long while ago and gave up on it especially when I heard about Dr. Famir.

Thanks for the interesting info about institutions at Camarilla H3 and L3 levels.

yea thats wcci ive been using it for a long time now, didnt hear about Dr Famir? I did like the colors and it real good with divergence. But as Im sure you will read above post response Im considering not to use any indicators, at least for ahile.

I attempted to post up my new charts but didnt happen? So Im going to post'em here on my response to you. these charts r squeezed to see bigger picture

Billplaying w/ these little dudes while I wait for upload..thats what I did wrong earler.

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Just want to make a note in case somebody's considering using camarilla...

On monday u have to type in fridays High Low & Close ur self otherwise it will put in sunday night #'s automaticly and select "False" for Daily Hi Lo.

Just for the day the lines will span all across the other days too, but who cares? ur just want accurate pivots for monday.

Wanted to mention this incase.

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yea thats wcci ive been using it for a long time now, didnt hear about Dr Famir? I did like the colors and it real good with divergence. But as Im sure you will read above post response Im considering not to use any indicators, at least for ahile.

I attempted to post up my new charts but didnt happen? So Im going to post'em here on my response to you. these charts r squeezed to see bigger picture

Billplaying w/ these little dudes while I wait for upload..thats what I did wrong earler.

That chart looks like what I expected to see....you can see price now...

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That chart looks like what I expected to see....you can see price now...

I hear that..I just need to concentrate on price doing its thing and trigger when my expectation is met.

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Today..Holy F'k..battered & wounded

Actually I waited til price crossed & closed except prce didnt close all the way on 7range..their was no space between L3 line & price bar & I got hosed..hung on a bit long -$120

2nd trade I got up $100 real quick..price on 7 range closed below L3 & some space between, it shot down quick.. didnt take it and Im actually still in it just to see..I sure in the hell wouldnt do this in real, & I kno I have to trade in sim as I will in real.


One thing ive noticed w/ camarilla is some days the H3 L3 levels can largely be spread & thats caused by high ranges the previous day..in this case friday..And as price crosses a L3 I want to be sure not to have a over extended situation...4range..4 or 5 red bars (7range 2 0r 3 red bars) cuz we kno a minor correction is going to happen..

So its critical w/ timing as price closes below L3 as the over extention or not is there..Im thinking a retracement back up to L3 serving as support.

Also when the H3 L3 range isnt so great as I see in some history thats when a close below is more explosive and above H3. Even on a monday when theirs a big range it did go for small handfull. I was slow on the trigger.

Tomarrow I bet the range will be tighter and will invite larger players.

Can I download these guys somewhere?

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Im sitting all morning waiting for price to cross H3, well close actually..then when it does it just moves sideways..

but meanwhile...as u can see in my screen shot...I was doing this for awhile by the way, & it was working good.

I would enter after a close above 55ema on both time frames & trail my stp along the 55..Why arnt I doing it this u ask? incase u r asking i'll answer..

After stumbling accross carmilla it said trading whithen H3 L3 was tougher territory & it seemed like it & looking back at those areas price did take off, well at least til I began to use that approach & ofcourse it doesnt want to do it.



Im ready and able to go live now just dont want to blow it now...again gonna find what works

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We got it now!

Okay boys...& gals..this is how were gonna keep doing it...

As soon as we get some space between price bar and 55ema on both charts we enter and keep our stop on the 55

...remember 55 saves lives?...old school..

Honestly when Im doing this live w real $$ I'll most likely will take profit much sooner, but then Im guessing how
far it will go..it will take real disapline to drag stop along 55 all thw way
Waiting for H3 to be reached is for the birds

I'll start posting live trades soon & show whats in my account at beganing & watch me grow my account or not.

B

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was up for around $50 or so but I wanted to lock in some security...

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My 1st trade there was on 4range a decent gap between price bar & 55ema but no gap or space on 7range although price itself was crossing 55ema...

I usually like to wait to see some space between 55 & P bar...I wanted to test taking it as just price crossing while the whole thing has already done so on 4range...I think maybe theres more momo when theres distance on both charts? pbar & 55ema.

On 2nd trade I treated the L3 the same as the 55ema...there was a gap between pbar & L3 on both charts..it hit L4 came up from there, nxt time I could just close it @ that point (L4)

On 1st trade I trailed stop on 55ema for awhlile to give price a chance to get going...I can clearly see that if I would of kept the stp on my 55 the whole time I would of stayed in trade much longer for more profit instead of quessing what price is up to.

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Bar on 4range clearly closed above 55ema while price itself crossed 55 but not closed above it...taking this one is probably more aggresive?

I close it once price hit, past & came back down thru L1 for $35.

Now ofcourse id still be in it if I were to keep stp trailing the 55 & it may keep going? Who knows? at this point as Im writing I would be at risk of 4 points which is -$20 + spread...not bad to see what could happen.

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A little too much support for my comfort in order to give up a lead

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The 55ema level took me out...I probably jumped on too quick thinking its getting away...I then notice price was giving me the finger u kno.. where 3 candle sticks form like a middle finger..its a set up the floor traders do.

Not a good trade all together..

Also my 55ema was flat, not pointing upward Lunch time & its time to lay on my hammock

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This is a system that will keep all of the clutter out & away for me..I can see immediately the whole picture..and react when PA crosses 55ema (both charts) its vital to let both charts initiate the trade.

Close trade when PA crosses back over blue line on 4range...when it does it seems momentum has reversed. To some extent.


* Enter after a close above/below 55ema (wh line) On both time frames.

* Exit once PA crosses Blue Line (16ema) on 4 range

I'll see how this goes tomarrow and over the week end on sim feed...

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i just wanted to congratulate you on starting the journal.I am having a hard time pulling your charts up, and will try again later.Welcome!

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i just wanted to congratulate you on starting the journal.I am having a hard time pulling your charts up, and will try again later.Welcome!

Thank You bobarian,

I wonder why it wont let u pull up my charts? Is that for all of them? Anyway, hope it will let u today.

I can see the advantage of keeping a public journal already..I think it keeps u sharper, its like u have an audiance

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Too many distractions to play effectively today

Im in front of market now & its in a range...I logged in BM's earlier today but that was it, all I could do was to look in on market and keep moving and say " mannn"


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I traded real this morning and it initially looked like a set up...now in hind sight, the smaller ma's was still above 55ema...we were still in chop...thats okay..I gave up $35 + spread..

This was my 1st real trade in about 3 months, I was alittle edgey about it, but it felt good non the less to scrap it out, have the heart pounce alittle..I was willing to pay to play and thats exactly what I told myself..when it looked right have a spin & I wasnt going to let pa get away from me like I did in the past..except a small loss,dont go into hope mode.. even the big fella's get it wrong from time to time.

The important thing for me is I have that feeling back again, the feeling I had back about 2 1/2 yrs ago when I wasnt afraid (was too nieve back then) eternal hope..I was trading wheat be up quick 400 then back down 400 I always was jumping back in like it was just round 3 and nail 800, I tasted the battle.

Back then this is how nieve I was..I had no idea about indicators or that u could have multiple charts and I did not know what at all what I was doing just that if I got it rite I made fucking money lol... this faggat broker told me nothing & I paid $18 rt...no offense to anyone...not that theres anything wrong w that.."sienfeild"

I didnt catch the next break out I was shampooing the freaking stairs sinse market was crawling anyway and wanted to make the wife happy


I also see the trendline on 7range...I see it now

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Im leaning towards making 1 trade a day for now.. to kinda create a...make it count approach.. so not to waste my one shot kinda thing...for me.

Todays trade was better in terms of not being scared and while in it, not feeling a panic emotion and letting myself to relax in order to let the pa work or not.

This trade (live) I was up $20 twice but closed it out once I seen I was wrong...pa was demonstrating weaknes for the downside...but heres my improvement thu..I cut bait much sooner as opposed to hanging on in wishful thinking...did same yesterday.

As for my trading stragity and sticking w/ it I give myself a "F" I didnt wait for pa to cross 55ema..instead I triggered in after pa crossed my 4 smaller ma's on 4range, figuring pa was reversing & I would catch it sooner.

Im realizing the difference between real & sim and adjusting to trading plan from both perspectives. I was in a free room 2 weeks ago & the moderator said we should practice in real cuz sim has no teeth basicly, sim is good for learning ur mechanics..at the time I thought "yah right" but Im starting to see what He was saying.

My loss was very small -$25 yesterday -$35 not counting cost of doing business. These losses r nothing compared to my old losses. Ive learned to say uncle sooner

In hind sight I see everything...

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I'll post my 2 losing trades later after I free up..if any one cares

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I'll post my 2 losing trades later after I free up..if any one cares

I too cannot pull up your charts. Try saving them as jpg's or png's. The bmp's are running 2-3 MB and may just be taking forever to download. After about 20 sec, I gave up. I think you'll find the other formats are more on the order of 80 KB. Much faster download and no loss of resolution for this application.

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See if my chart comes up? I have paint box, 2 of them, unzip & ziped..i been using the zip one, this time I used unzip..

See if that makes a difference...Thanks

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Billbb
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Think I got it figured out? I saved my pic w/ jpg..was using Windows bitmap..see if it works now

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Think I got it figured out? I saved my pic w/ jpg..was using Windows bitmap..see if it works now

Still a bitmap.

Click on the word screenshot in my post for some advice on software and how to do it.

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Congratulations on your journal!



In the spirit of our March Trading Journal contest, I am asking everyone to spend a few minutes and share their journaling experience.

A) What are the top five benefits you have seen as a result of regularly posting in this journal?

B) What are the top five problem areas you have identified as a result of regularly posting in this journal?

C) Were you initially reluctant to start this trading journal? If yes, why?

D) How do you feel, overall, about your journaling experience?

E) Would you recommend to others that they should also start a trading journal?

Thank you for taking the time to answer my questions. I appreciate your posts, and I hope you have benefited from your journal. I also know that others will benefit as well, just by reading about your own experiences.

Enjoy your weekend,
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Congratulations on your journal!



In the spirit of our March Trading Journal contest, I am asking everyone to spend a few minutes and share their journaling experience.

A) What are the top five benefits you have seen as a result of regularly posting in this journal?

B) What are the top five problem areas you have identified as a result of regularly posting in this journal?

C) Were you initially reluctant to start this trading journal? If yes, why?

D) How do you feel, overall, about your journaling experience?

E) Would you recommend to others that they should also start a trading journal?

Thank you for taking the time to answer my questions. I appreciate your posts, and I hope you have benefited from your journal. I also know that others will benefit as well, just by reading about your own experiences.

Enjoy your weekend,
Mike

Ive made myself more aware or cognitive to being more carefull on taking trades and not hitting the reset button because its more tranparant. Gives sim a perspective of real, simply due to transparity.

And by posting my trades for all to see it provides a record for my reviewing at any time, and it cronicles the process of developement as we become traders. I imagine theirs more advantages that Im not considering at the moment.

Disadvantage I would say isnt much, I like the opportunity to develope in a forum like this. Personally myself when I see almost 300 people viewed my post I expect more thanks out of those numbers. Makes me more gratefull for thanks that I do recieve.

And Ive figured out my pics using jpeg so they can be viewed. I thought my 1st journal was lost or removed, didnt realize it goes furthur back & I wasnt finding it so I started another one. I want to scrap this one cus u cant pull up the charts anyway.

Thanks Mike

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