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the art of leverage as i see it

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final exit will be 1394.25 area

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looking at a reversal play from 90.25 -will hold off for now on the 94.25 exit -the short call from 1408.75 was very close over night

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will stick to plan exit 94.25 -will review a long from 93 area

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flattened last con at 1395.75 for 20 points -to long a wait for the last 2 points -

overall 48 points banked -if we would have should have could have rode all 6 from 1415 to the final exit for 19 points each 114 would be the total for 18 points of risk

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always amazes me how if -1 would wait just 8 more min -how things work out -you can be profitable in any area near the target zone

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no more trades till next week - 1397.25 looks good from here for a trailer long -

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well we got to within 3 ticks of out 1397.25 target -

so after a month of leverage trades 1 thing should be sticking out like a sore thumb

TIMING -its everything when you leverage -

on giant size swing trades you need to be entering long before the move even comes into play

thus on a 1415.75 reversal point
here is how we doit

all levels @ 324 cons divided by 6 traders
1417.50
1417.25
1417.00
1416.75
1416.50
1416.25
1416.00
1415.75
1415.50
1415.25
1415.00
1414.75
1414.50
1414.25
1414.00
all traders enter there lots differently
some do single hits 54 times
some doubles 27 times and so on
this will be the final post on this thread -i hope it showed you dont need to only fire on the edge -but to also get out with profit when the gettin is good ---

good luck to all

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its been since april 4 th that we have last visited this trade -


timing 6000 contracts short

currently thanks to market conditions we are up 141 points per contract of the es


141 x 50 = $7050 profit per contract-

7050 x 6000 = 42.3 million dollars

i am looking to protect some profit now at the 67.50 area

all things are possible with a easy edge system--will update at some futher date

















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well we got to within 3 ticks of out 1397.25 target -

so after a month of leverage trades 1 thing should be sticking out like a sore thumb

TIMING -its everything when you leverage -

on giant size swing trades you need to be entering long before the move even comes into play

thus on a 1415.75 reversal point
here is how we doit

all levels @ 324 cons divided by 6 traders
1417.50
1417.25
1417.00
1416.75
1416.50
1416.25
1416.00
1415.75
1415.50
1415.25
1415.00
1414.75
1414.50
1414.25
1414.00
all traders enter there lots differently
some do single hits 54 times
some doubles 27 times and so on
this will be the final post on this thread -i hope it showed you dont need to only fire on the edge -but to also get out with profit when the gettin is good ---

good luck to all


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i am looking to protect some profit now at the 67.50 area

the area in the text above was the 1267 area -remember we shorted 1415 down to 1267 -

i am now flat as of todays wonderful drag line through the 1402 to 1403 area -

we captured 135 points on 6000 contracts for 40.5 million dollars

but its the percentage % i am always most proud of 30 to 1 risk reward ratio as we had 225 dollars worth of risk at the base of the trade with a 6750 gain for a 3000% return on the risk -

we were very fortunate to have 2 great market turns to do this twice in a row -and what i mean be that is 3000% on the down side and 3000% on the upside

please be advised that this exit is by no means calling the top on this turn we have exited our position as hit hit our target objective

grand total for these trade in excess of 84 million dollars but the 3000% is what i am most proud of -

this is the final post on the thread -what a great day

:when you cheat -you only cheat yourself
refer to post # 470 & 527 & 930
option traders refer to post 996 thru 1005
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