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ES Mini - $1,000 to $20,000

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this is for cme- i did this just to show when i am locked to 1 contract -i can't leverage or overleverage in -
today i used no chart indicators at all -the chart was blank other than candles and side prices -i used no rules either -as why mark a chart if you are going to break your rules -so today i traded 4 contracts -all single positions as i am locked to 1 contract
every trade was a guess -as when you dont stick to your rules you may as well be guessing-
bought 53 out @ 52.50
bought 48.75 out @ 43.25
bought 43.50 out @ 42.25
bought 42.75 out @ 42
remember no chart marks at all -every trade was a no-rules guess
loss today was 400 plus 20 in comish
i am done for the day other wise i would try and recoup by the rules short to 36 and reverse

so wed we will be back to our strick rules and a no -guess system-

will post the blotter in the am to verify -

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Nice thread, looking forward for more

Colin
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this is for cme- i did this just to show when i am locked to 1 contract -i can't leverage or overleverage in -
today i used no chart indicators at all -the chart was blank other than candles and side prices -i used no rules either -as why mark a chart if you are going to break your rules -so today i traded 4 contracts -all single positions as i am locked to 1 contract
every trade was a guess -as when you dont stick to your rules you may as well be guessing-
bought 53 out @ 52.50
bought 48.75 out @ 43.25
bought 43.50 out @ 42.25
bought 42.75 out @ 42
remember no chart marks at all -every trade was a no-rules guess
loss today was 400 plus 20 in comish
i am done for the day other wise i would try and recoup by the rules short to 36 and reverse

so wed we will be back to our strick rules and a no -guess system-

will post the blotter in the am to verify -

Sorry to hear. Why did you choose to trade like this today?

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My trades today

8:46 am S1 @ 1352.50 exit 1349.75 +2.75
9:43 am S1 @1346.75 exit 1347.50 - .75
10:12 am S1 @1345.50 exit 1344.75 +.75

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bh -being its early in our goal -there are some who will watch this thread and understand in the end that if there is a real stiff plan of attack -you can trade with a small account and watch it grow - if you look through my 4 trades today you will see the 1 trade that ruined the day -at the open i guessed long and was only looking for about 9 to 10 ticks -i dont think i ever realized 2 -and it went against -but if you look at the other 3 trades and compare the exits you will see why everyone needs and hard exit plan -i dont use hard stops -but in normal trading days -i use a 7 tick max exit -if this is not in place and you are overleveraged -than cme is correct in saying you can have a blow out day and kill the account -the numbers will take care of themselves if we take care of the plan


oh and congrates on a good day of planning bh

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Yes, S/R has many meaning to many people. I try to keep it simple.
I like to use daily Open, Close, and Fib's.

Are you incorporating any type of Market Profile?

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one last trade for the day
3:16 B1 1340.50 target 1348.00
may get out soon

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I hate to be a downer, but am I the only person who thinks this is not a good idea? First off the ES is a highly leveraged instrument. It can eat $1000 in a few moments. My broker will not even let you buy a single contract on $1000 account and trust me that is not because they are too over cautious or would shed a tear if I blew up my account (again).

I have over 20+ years of trading experience. My account is many many times your size. I have written automated trading strategies, even some based on the CCI and many other squiggles. I have read thousands of pages of literature on the subject of trading. I can’t do what you are planning to do and so either I am stupid, or god loves you more than any trader I ever met. (If I were you I would not bet on either of those)

Why don’t you trade something less volatile and with less leverage, like IWM and RWM. Better yet, why don’t you paper trade for a while until you are confident. If you have a technical side try putting your strategy into NinjaScript or have someone write it for you and see how easy it is to hit a $1000 draw-down in backtest.

I suppose $1000 is not a lot of money but I would rather you gave it to the SPCA, or at least went to the Casino and got a free drink before it was gone.

Give the guy a break, he is trading e-mini S&P with a trading plan as good as majority of the others' on this board. $1000 these days will not even buy a 3-credit course in any major university.

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one last trade for the day
3:16 B1 1340.50 target 1348.00
may get out soon

out at 1342.00

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I have no problem with your feedback. I have taken $1000 and made $5000 in a week.
Of course this will only happen with patience and when the market is moving and not staying in a small range.
I have traded choppy days but it takes too much out of me and too many trades.

Do you have a screen shot of your setup, are you using indicators?

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