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ES Mini - $1,000 to $20,000

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I think you are right, S/R are so 'a la mode' these days that many programmers saw a good opportunity to make easy money selling these lines.


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What kind of S/R are you looking for? S/R is so broadly defined these days. Fibs/Zones/moving averages/HLOC/Globex Levels?


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good deal bh-- how will we post -every day -or weekly - or we could post pics of our trading ladder p/l backed by a blotter -i am up for ideas on this question -let me know -as i will start mon march 5th and we can work out the details - also do to account size - i will have my account locked to trade only 1 contract -thanks for your willingness to play and i wish you tremendous success as it will be a joy to be apart of -thankyou

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basic play today was to be short below 67 area -took 4 trades (2 short )(2 long)
short 65.75 out @63.50
short 65.75 out @59.50
long 59.50 out @ 59.25
long 60.25 out @ 60.25
trading ladder shows p/l of 412.50 less com-about 392 clear -will post blotter in the am to confirm-off to a good start -as i know everyday wont be like this

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So are you just trading the ES only? No NQ/YM of 6E?

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basic play today was to be short below 67 area -took 4 trades (2 short )(2 long)
short 65.75 out @63.50
short 65.75 out @59.50
long 59.50 out @ 59.25
long 60.25 out @ 60.25
trading ladder shows p/l of 412.50 less com-about 392 clear -will post blotter in the am to confirm-off to a good start -as i know everyday wont be like this

creekboy are you trading the first 2/ 2.5 hrs or all RTH.

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1000 to zero

I hate to be a downer, but am I the only person who thinks this is not a good idea? First off the ES is a highly leveraged instrument. It can eat $1000 in a few moments. My broker will not even let you buy a single contract on $1000 account and trust me that is not because they are too over cautious or would shed a tear if I blew up my account (again).

I have over 20+ years of trading experience. My account is many many times your size. I have written automated trading strategies, even some based on the CCI and many other squiggles. I have read thousands of pages of literature on the subject of trading. I canít do what you are planning to do and so either I am stupid, or god loves you more than any trader I ever met. (If I were you I would not bet on either of those)

Why donít you trade something less volatile and with less leverage, like IWM and RWM. Better yet, why donít you paper trade for a while until you are confident. If you have a technical side try putting your strategy into NinjaScript or have someone write it for you and see how easy it is to hit a $1000 draw-down in backtest.

I suppose $1000 is not a lot of money but I would rather you gave it to the SPCA, or at least went to the Casino and got a free drink before it was gone.

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yes i am trading the es only -as for leverage you are correct -but if you read back -i have my 1500 starter account locked at 1 contract so i dont make a critical leverage mistake -here is mondays blotter-

_________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
No Open Trade Equity
_________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
Account Balances
_________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
Segregated Ledger Open Trade Total
Beginning balance 1,509.05 - 1,509.05
Activity ____3_9_2_.50 _________- ____3_9_2_.50
Ending balance US$ 1,901.55 - 1,901.55
Total US$ Equivalent Ledger Open Trade Total
Segregated 1,901.55 - 1,901.55
Net Liquidating Value
1,901.55

_________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
Daily Trading Activity
_________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

US$
Contracts Exchange Fees Commissions NFA Fees PNL/Other Segregated Secured

3/5/2012 ESH2
_____8 __-_9_.12 _-_1_0_.72 __-_0_.16 _4_1_2_.50 _3_9_2_.50 ______-
8 -9.12 -10.72 -0.16 412.50 392.50 -
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T_r_a_d_i_n_g_ _d_e_t_a_i__l_s_ _f_o_r_ _E_-_m_i_n_i__ _S_&_P_ _5_0_0_ _-_ _M__a_r_._ _2_0_1_2_ _(_E_S_H__2_)________________________________________________________________________________________
Date & Time Code Buy Qty Sell Qty Filled Price Order_Id

Fills
3/5/2012 1:38:17 PM(GMT) FILL - 1 1,365.75 23,533,341
3/5/2012 2:47:55 PM(GMT) FILL 1 - 1,363.50 23,535,099
3/5/2012 3:10:31 PM(GMT) FILL - 1 1,365.75 23,536,458
3/5/2012 3:25:06 PM(GMT) FILL 1 - 1,359.50 23,537,471
3/5/2012 3:25:06 PM(GMT) FILL 1 - 1,359.50 23,537,472
3/5/2012 4:20:33 PM(GMT) FILL - 1 1,359.25 23,542,526
3/5/2012 6:21:32 PM(GMT) FILL 1 - 1,360.25 23,545,196
3/5/2012 6:35:38 PM(GMT) FILL __- _1 1,360.25 23,545,397
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Gross Profit or Loss from Trades 412.50
Change in Open Trade Equity________-

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basic play today was to be short below 67 area -took 4 trades (2 short )(2 long)
short 65.75 out @63.50
short 65.75 out @59.50
long 59.50 out @ 59.25
long 60.25 out @ 60.25
trading ladder shows p/l of 412.50 less com-about 392 clear -will post blotter in the am to confirm-off to a good start -as i know everyday wont be like this


Excellent! you are already ahead of me. It was another choppy day for me and no trades. I like days with news to give direction.

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So are you just trading the ES only? No NQ/YM of 6E?


Only ES.

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I hate to be a downer, but am I the only person who thinks this is not a good idea? First off the ES is a highly leveraged instrument. It can eat $1000 in a few moments. My broker will not even let you buy a single contract on $1000 account and trust me that is not because they are too over cautious or would shed a tear if I blew up my account (again).

I have over 20+ years of trading experience. My account is many many times your size. I have written automated trading strategies, even some based on the CCI and many other squiggles. I have read thousands of pages of literature on the subject of trading. I canít do what you are planning to do and so either I am stupid, or god loves you more than any trader I ever met. (If I were you I would not bet on either of those)

Why donít you trade something less volatile and with less leverage, like IWM and RWM. Better yet, why donít you paper trade for a while until you are confident. If you have a technical side try putting your strategy into NinjaScript or have someone write it for you and see how easy it is to hit a $1000 draw-down in backtest.

I suppose $1000 is not a lot of money but I would rather you gave it to the SPCA, or at least went to the Casino and got a free drink before it was gone.


I have no problem with your feedback. I have taken $1000 and made $5000 in a week.
Of course this will only happen with patience and when the market is moving and not staying in a small range.
I have traded choppy days but it takes too much out of me and too many trades.

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