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Dax long 10:30 to 13:00

entry @ 11429
exit @ 11404
result -25 points

IB vol good

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Attention: yesterday we had a change direction signal.. (Bearish engulfing candle)
If price falls underneath hourly Kumo then price can reach easily a correction under 11000.
In the daily Kumo we can see that Chikou Span (lagging line) has for some days a weaker
support. This can mean a intermediate correction before reaching higher highs.
Goal 13000 plus..

Today no trade as yesterday's range had 186 points.

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Today the price fell into hourly Kumo and sits in the middle.
The correction support looking at hourly candles is @ 10912.

Watch for ECB decision tomorrow afternoon and especially
the commentary to it.
Might give some steep downmove (taking the wins).
Finding new levels to consolidate first.

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Caution today
ECB decission 13:45
Comments 14:30

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Dax long 09:30 to 14:30

entry @ 11511
exit @ 11547
result +36 points

IB vol ok
Thin signal
Price near ATH - caution

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could you please remind me what ATH means?

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could you please remind me what ATH means?

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ATH means All Time High.

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As the Draghi money Tsunami has not ended yet:
..we need to kow that
1) Stocks and futures in Europe may rise without any reason
2) normal psychological daily moves are not on the path
3) The new ATH of 13K PLUS is not reached yet
4) everything is on thin ice (even thinner than in the past)
5) normal volume and behaviour will take over when this hype is over too

So have a great weekend and look forward to new highs - as always

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Dax long 09:30 to 14:30

entry @ 11511
exit @ 11547
result +36 points

IB vol ok
Thin signal
Price near ATH - caution

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This week had 2 trades

One negative (-25 points)
One positive (+36 points)
weekly result +11 points
Points since week 2: 89

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As the Draghi money Tsunami has not ended yet:
..we need to kow that
1) Stocks and futures in Europe may rise without any reason
2) normal psychological daily moves are not on the path
3) The new ATH of 13K PLUS is not reached yet
4) everything is on thin ice (even thinner than in the past)
5) normal volume and behaviour will take over when this hype is over too

So have a great weekend and look forward to new highs - as always

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More shake-outs of weak hands like Friday would be ideal.
Besides, US markets also suffer from the strong $/xxx.
Nice scenario for higher volatility ahead.

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Phew.. I'm glad Mr. DAX got back into his normal groove last week. The previous week's lack of movement and the general tension in the air over the last month has been a bit of a struggle.

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Dax short 9:30 to 14:00

entry @ 11487
exit @ 11517 (SL)
result -30 points

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.. the roller coaster stopped it out immediately

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As seen in this thin area..
.. a short trade on normal rules - especially on Mondays where more money flows into the markets -
is extremely risky.

So I am putting in a NEW RULE:

If previous day made a new Alltime High - NO SHORT TRADE.

This will prevent us from being shaken out quickly.

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..Draghi's QE program starting today for a lot of coming months.

This money flow can drive up European Indices in no time..
So ALL shorts now in the futures are higher risk than longs.

Don't forget

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..Draghi's QE program starting today for a lot of coming months.

This money flow can drive up European Indices in no time..
So ALL shorts now in the futures are higher risk than longs.

Don't forget

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Not only for DAX and European markets, I would imagine.

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As seen in this thin area..
.. a short trade on normal rules - especially on Mondays where more money flows into the markets -
is extremely risky.

So I am putting in a NEW RULE:

If previous day made a new Alltime High - NO SHORT TRADE.

This will prevent us from being shaken out quickly.

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Maybe this is what market makers want us to think? ATH- all go long, and they squeeze stops down. Today gap down on ETH open. Gaps against a trend tend not to close same day..

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Yesterday was really such a shakeout day with a range of 175 points.
Looks so that near ATH the vola with good volume is high.
These special "patterns" can hold on for some weeks.
The euro markets need to get used to the monthly money swamp
by the ECB.
So some caution is needed.

As we had 175 range on Tuesday there will be no trade today.

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DAX very very overboth

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DAX very very overboth

and it can stay like that for years, just look at QE and ES.

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and it can stay like that for years, just look at QE and ES.

Nothing lasts forever. see nyse margin

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Nothing lasts forever. see nyse margin

QE is over. For now. But just don't call the tops when funny money is flowing in unstoppable.

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..Draghi's QE program starting today for a lot of coming months.

This money flow can drive up European Indices in no time..
So ALL shorts now in the futures are higher risk than longs.

Don't forget

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Very true! this morning, "Houston we have lift off" 100 points in the 9 hour!

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Very true! this morning, "Houston we have lift off" 100 points in the 9 hour!

hmmm - my next WienerWalzer is on tour...

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edit: HERE

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hmmm - my next WienerWalzer is on tour...


..we might even consider to ALL (my) rule sets:
to NOT take a short when in previous hour(s) a new ATH had been seen

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Easy to understand NEW Draghi rule coming here:

(for all my systems // will not repeat it in the other threads)

If last day or starting day made a new ATH:
NO short taken (even if it is a part of the rule)

Easy - isn't it?

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PS: will for sure last for the next 18 months

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Easy to understand NEW Draghi rule coming here:

(for all my systems // will not repeat it in the other threads)

If last day or starting day made a new ATH:
NO short taken (even if it is a part of the rule)

Easy - isn't it?

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PS: will for sure last for the next 18 months

How about the rule is Draghi starts to talk - buy, when his speech is finished and QA ensues - close and hit the pub

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SHORT

Good luck while top guessing.

During US QEs, the US indices weren't very impressed by old trend channels for a very long time.
Up to now FGBL, FESX, and FDAX aren't either - but each day, sentiment shows herds of shorties bleeding to death

But no doubt: ONE day, they will be right

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Dax long 09:30 to 13:30

entry @ 11814
exit @ 11784 (SL)
result -30 points

IB vol ok

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ATTENTION
US numbers 13:30!!
as US has already summertime (Germany changes on sunday 29th march)

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Dax long 09:30 to 13:30

entry @
exit @
result

IB vol

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Mate, what stops do you use in the situation like that? Obviously direction is up up up, but they do these notorious stop runs in the mornings now.. Apparently up to 100 points? But profits can be 100-200 points easily too.

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Mate, what stops do you use in the situation like that? Obviously direction is up up up, but they do these notorious stop runs in the mornings now.. Apparently up to 100 points? But profits can be 100-200 points easily too.

Hi Alex
my stop is 30 points still..
Hope it holds

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Hi Alex
my stop is 30 points still..
Hope it holds

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It should, you entry timing is pristine!

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Hi Alex
my stop is 30 points still..
Hope it holds

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Unfortunately
it did NOT hold

Week done
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Unfortunately
it did NOT hold

Week done
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Unfortunately
it did NOT hold

Week done
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My 2ct about volume: imo FDAX morning volume was very low given that
there is only one week left til witching day.

Concerning the trade:
We all know that stops sometimes are a pain in the ass, but as long as
your stats support your system, just grats for your discipline.

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This week had 2 trades

both with SL of 30 points
weekly result -60 points
Points since week 2: 29

not back to field one..
But happy to have a SL wide enough but not to wide.

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No trade today
as Friday had a range of 165 points and made again a new ATH..

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No trade today
as Friday had a range of 165 points and made again a new ATH..

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hmmm.. in this thin air it would have given a nice trade: 83 points after normal rules
BUT: market is here tomorrow too

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As always some strange moves are to be seen when on Friday 13h triple witch
will happen.
So be cautious. I will not trade on friday.

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As we can see from the price development up yesterday and the move down today:
Normal wekly rules are not vaild on triple witch weeks!

So a hint for good trades (directional) like this week is:
Monday, especially Tuesday and Thursday.
Omitting Wednesday and Friday totally.
No overtrading needed.

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No Wednesday trade, no Friday trade:
Triple witch week where normally a negative weekly result is to find.

Looking for next week with more normalized volume and vola.
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hmmm.. in this thin air it would have given a nice trade: 83 points after normal rules
BUT: market is here tomorrow too

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I admire your discipline.

My humble opinion:
Discpline means surviving in choppy markets.
Without discipline one is set back as a spectator
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There is no normal Monday trade as on Friday range was 160 points.

BUT:
A promising start this morning with a red candle of 89 points (O/C)
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Dax short 10:00 to 15:30

entry @ 12043
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Lots of free days for the system at these ATR levels.
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Yesterday a Hi/Lo range of 232 points..
No friday trade.

Price stays now at bottom of hourly cloud - attracted by opposite line.
Might push through quickly and gets back to previous ATH levels.
Or could fail today exactly at cloud.
The previous discussed touch of KijunSen (now at 11547) has not been
reached yet - to finish the down correction.

Next week is a short one - including last of month - which could head
for higher prices on Monday and Tuesday as 1st quarter of yera numbers
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Was ok to not take any trade - price just moving up and down without a real
direction.
Good to stay at the sidelines and best:
NO RISK!

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After week 12 had no trade
here is the new balance after week 13:

This week had one trade:
Positive plus 61 points

Points since week 2: 90

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As US summertime is already on for more than 10 days
we will have change this weekend from Saturday to Sunday in Europe too.

This will have effect for US numbers (normally 14:30 Europe time)
and things are back to normal again.

These 2 weeks are always a bit tricky for trades that are fixed for entry and
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Dax long 9:30 to 14:00

looks promising to get quickly higher second to last day of 1st quarter 2015

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Dax long 9:30 to 14:00

looks promising to get quickly higher second to last day of 1st quarter 2015

entry @
exit @
result

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.. if today's pattern of a WienerWalzer could be built again (just a test of situation when not ALL rules are ok):



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Hi,

could you please explain me, on what criteria you base your decision to go long or short during the morning hours?

I understand that today for example the morning opening was strong and promising (momentum was there), but rsi in both hour and 10min time intervals was totally overbought.

You often mention something of a Kumo/cloud (an instrument which I don't know). Can you please explain it to me?

On conclusion, do you take your long/short decision on technical/instruments, feeling or both? (apart from your standard rules which must apply anyway)

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could you please explain me, on what criteria you base your decision to go long or short during the morning hours?
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My entry and exit times come from a pattern system: Every weekday has a different approach.
No gut feeling, no indicators though. Only looking back to previous day(s), today's highly important announcements
as well as holidays influence the trading habits given on that special WEEK-day.
These patterns were chosen out of many and do have some positive track record.
If you read the whole thread (pppphhhh..) you will see in short:
Monday: money flows into the markets: IB makes the direction - rules do the entry exit times
Wednesday: normally after two green days on this day the price is falling - rule defines again when to enter and exit
Friday: normally money goes back to secure cash - so: IB shows the "false direction" - and system is programming the
opposite of that IB 30 minutes.

Easy as that..
with some exceptions of course.

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I put it only in ONE post as it would make this thread otherwise unreadable.

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You often mention something of a Kumo/cloud (an instrument which I don't know). Can you please explain it to me?

With reagrds,
Alex

The indicator with "Kumo" or cloud is the japanese Ichomoku Kinko Hyo.
It shows past, moment and future in one chart. As well as support, resistance
and this on any timeframe.
It is very helpful understand longer periods or some shaky moments (when price
is in Kumo - means a flight in the cloud where you do not see the direction to take).
This special Ichimoku is part of my rules and had prevented me many times to
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You will find quite a lot of background to Ichimoku here in futures.io (formerly BMT) or on specialized
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Hi alex @alexk1968

My entry and exit times come from a pattern system: Every weekday has a different approach.
No gut feeling, no indicators though. Only looking back to previous day(s), today's highly important announcements
as well as holidays influence the trading habits given on that special WEEK-day.
These patterns were chosen out of many and do have some positive track record.
If you read the whole thread (pppphhhh..) you will see in short:
Monday: money flows into the markets: IB makes the direction - rules do the entry exit times
Wednesday: normally after two green days on this day the price is falling - rule defines again when to enter and exit
Friday: normally money goes back to secure cash - so: IB shows the "false direction" - and system is programming the
opposite of that IB 30 minutes.

Easy as that..
with some exceptions of course.

Hope this helps
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PS: if you read my thread here you can see my entry time and exit time are announced BEFORE taking the trade...
I put it only in ONE post as it would make this thread otherwise unreadable.

this is to be put into favorities!

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.. we might see some higher levels again!
As the first quarter wants to see good prices at its end.
On wednesday some lower levels could be reached again
as investors take out profits and will not hold a lot over
the long easter period.
Just be aware!
No trade on thursday then until wednesday next week.

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Dax long 09:30 to 16:30

entry @ 12107
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entry @ 12107
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Ever tried to read the thread intro? Ever understood?


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Today was a high risk trade:
Normally after the Hi/Lo of yesterday a trade after rules was not permitted.
The uptrend was there on IB though and some indication to see higher levels
was there.
Unfortunately the pushing bullish power exhausted early:



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No trade today after the high vola yesterday.
This week no more trades.
Next trade on next Tuesday as Friday and Monday are german holidays.

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thank you ... I trade with an order 20 tick stop and tp ..it's a little too close but it seems to me that the 30 tick a lot ..koliki you like? the same number?

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The stop of 30 points is optimized for my time based entry and exit. As the trades are quite
long during the day (normally).
Having the stop more dense it is taken out many times - and the price is again in the intended
direction.
If the stop is set too wide - the negative days weigh to much.

To make it clear: my 30 point stop is optimized with the one trade per day system. It can not been
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Just test your own system back and find the optimal stop settings and eventually the take profit points.

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The stop of 30 points is optimized for my time based entry and exit. As the trades are quite
long during the day (normally).
Having the stop more dense it is taken out many times - and the price is again in the intended
direction.
If the stop is set too wide - the negative days weigh to much.

To make it clear: my 30 point stop is optimized with the one trade per day system. It can not been
transferred to another approach.
Just test your own system back and find the optimal stop settings and eventually the take profit points.

GFIs1

Plus: Your system has volatility halts in the sense that trading stops after high vola days.
This is also necessary because 30 tick stops are already relatively close considering
daily ATR14 of >200 at the moment.

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This week had 2 trades
of which one was against the rules - guess which one

Positive trade 34 points
negative trade 30 points SL
weekly result 4 points
Points since week 2: 94

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Dax long 09:30 to 15:00

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result

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Typical after long weekend trade

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entry @ 12106

exit 12135
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Today a normal rule trade (after a long weekend)

Dax short 11:30 to 13:00

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Wednesday short after a long weekend goes only with the abbreviation rule..
otherwise no points will be made.

So here is the abbreviation chart - with some points made:



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just for information:
Friday trade will happen with normal rules.

A NEW ATH is in sight.. right then

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Today really new ATH possibility. **
Late yesterday pricing was already on new levels.
Start into this Friday brings already a new High.
Looks like QE money is still bringing heavy up
momentum - for a longer time of course.

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**needs to be confirmed by End of Day though

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Dax long 09:30 to 13:30

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This short easter week had 3 trades

Positive: three (29 + 42 + 108 points)
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Positive: three (29 + 42 + 108 points)
weekly result 179 points
Points since week 2: 273

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Great and well-deserved reward for your patience and discipline.
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Great and well-deserved reward for your patience and discipline.
Good job.

Thanks @choke35
Market is - ALWAYS - there - so taking the right moment for a trade is primordial.
This week gave the right points. Which were not there in the previous weeks.
Patience in the market is maybe the key...

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Last friday with new ATH and range of 186 points prohibits
from a trade today...
Often seen on a new ATH day that price is rocketing up
but the following 2 days are not showing normal patterns.
Especially over a weekend.

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but the following 2 days are not showing normal patterns

..very true - no pattern could have given any positive point

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..very true - no pattern could have given any positive point

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very strange day today!

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very strange day today!

Looking back into my long history of Dax patterns - there are quite a lot
of extreme days - be it volatility or new highs.
After ALL these days some psychological "problems" of decison were to see
which means that nothing planned happened.
On those days it is best to stay at the sidelines...
At least to not count the lost points

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A glimps of a sideways day with a drop after german cash hours:
(Was best to not have taken any trade)



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Don't forget about ECB day on Wednesday (a trade is foreseen).
Time: 13:45 and 14:30 press conference.
Of course nearly nothing will change: no new decision and no new commentary/ies.
But on these high levels in the indices some corrections may occur - better to
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Dax short 10:30 to 13:00 (ECB day)

entry @ 12354
exit @ 12313
result 41 points

IB vol ok

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Dax short 10:30 to 13:00 (ECB day)

entry @ 12354
exit @
result

IB vol ok

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right at the reversal point!!

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Don't forget about ECB day on Wednesday (a trade is foreseen).
Time: 13:45 and 14:30 press conference.
Of course nearly nothing will change: no new decision and no new commentary/ies.
But on these high levels in the indices some corrections may occur - better to
be alerted though.

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For those of you who'd like to watch the press conference; start: 1430CET.

ECB: Webcasts: ECB monetary policy decisions

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Good morning,

wasn't the original idea dax short (9:30 - fdax:12296, not 10:30 to 13:00) or am I wrong?

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wasn't the original idea dax short (9:30 - fdax:12296, not 10:30 to 13:00) or am I wrong?
Alex

Today is a special day:
1) ECB
2) previous day 164 points range...

so entry and exit point is different / rule

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Special wednesday:
Short as nearly always - but ending BEFORE ECB decision came out.
And we landed with some nice points as entry and exit time were good.
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As we know - wednesday is giving nearly the most points over the year
trading the Dax intraday with looking at patterns.
So 95% are short trades.
I do have basically two rule sets for Wednesdays:
1) a short trade rule set (for IB green and for IB red candle)
2) a extended rule set for normal days with no US numbers, no ECB day, no short week, no extra vola on Tuesday
Thus ALL my entry and exit times are specially MADE on these occasions.
It is the most complicated rule set I have for any given day.
If you read carefully through this thread - you will find a lot of different entry- and exit-times.
As the trades normally are announced before taken with entry and exit TIME - you can see that there is no
hindsight "best guessing"
Unfortunately the rule set is quite complicated especially for a day like today and a programming seems difficult.
The rule set in fact has not been changed much since four years.

As I need not a lot of time to analize the market at the opening / comparing with yesterday's hi/lo and eventual
gap on today's start - I need not much screen time for my decision. Once fixed when to take the trade this is
programmed then for entry and exit as well as the stop loss setting. So no more survey needed.
Trading normally a max of 3 days within a week - there is no longer a big time investment.
That time was needed to develop the patterns for every weekday.

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excellent two days dax ... I use only Renko flex. + 3 indicator..result here

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excellent two days dax ... I use only Renko flex. + 3 indicator..result here

Think, you still didn't get the difference between systematic trading and your 2 days of scalping ...

Besides: The FDAX had a range of more than 280p today and you bore us with scalps that netted 47p
and that had higher average losses than wins.
Who do you think would be impressed by this kind of yield on a trend day?

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Think, you still didn't get the difference between systematic trading and your 2 days of scalping ...

Besides: The FDAX had a range of more than 280p today and you bore us with scalps that netted 47p
and that had higher average losses than wins.
Who do you think would be impressed by this kind of yield on a trend day?

must be respected system, risks are less so with profit povecava..na $ 20,000 profits go by with two contracts .Replace cu results here, so at 40 000 3 contracts still account for yourself ..impressed?
What's your strategy and that is risik-profit? thank you

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If your foremost desire is to tout scalping results, what about opening a journal of your own
instead of cluttering a proven system thread? I'm sure, your scalping fanboys would find you.

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If your foremost desire is to tout scalping results, what about opening a journal of your own
instead of cluttering a proven system thread? I'm sure, your scalping fanboys would find you.

so ... You still have not answered what's your strategy and demonstration of its elevation results ??
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Yesterday a trending day with a large down move.
Looks like that could continue today.
KijunSen is @ 11896 - and horizontal: so a closing on that one is highly possible.
A move down around 11840 area can be previewed.
Some US numbers this afternoon at 14:30.
Here no daily trade: but if a bolder move down is to see we can
look to get maybe a entry for a WienerWalzer.

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