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There are some very interesting discussions on futures.io (formerly BMT) board in non journal threads. Be it hard stops, mental stops or even NOstops.
My future trading reveals some essence I want to share here:
- Stops may be essential to prevent the account AND to calculate a maximum drawdown in advance
- A stop needs to be outside of the noise zone. That zone is statistical value that only can be found by looking at the normal movements of a specific instrument as well as the desired timeframe of the trade
- In my instrument DAX future traded only during the day, open to close within some hours I have two distances I use depending on the movement of the PAST day. (the settings are 30 respective 40 points depending on the situation.
Yesterday I proposed a 20 points stop because of a faint entry signal.
Some proposals were to move the stop at break-even after the first price-movement was fast in the right direction.
I do not move stops - after I started a trade.
Here is why - the example of yesterday would have been hit at the break-even stop and my daily result would be ZERO.
Letting playing out the trade and getting to where the original goal was set - my trade went to plus 27 points plus.
What does this mean?
There is a preparation of a trade before we trigger an entry.
The exit should be defined - either by a signal, a fixed take profit or a defined time.
When we enter a trade - any movement of above previewed goals / stops are not helpful.
So letting it play out and relaxing inbetween means over long term much better trades as well as protecting blood pressure :-)
Just a little example for stops.
GFIs1
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Thursday trade started the first 30min outside of the wednesday range.
My ruleset takes in this case a counter trade for a short term morning trade
to close that gap in order to follow the downtrend then.
This didn't happen yesterday as we have seen. The normal stop was hit.
Now the question today: if for the quaterly close the price moves
up again into 7000. This would close that wednesday gap too.
Good trades today
GFIs1
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In the spirit of our March Trading Journal contest, I am asking everyone to spend a few minutes and share their journaling experience.
A) What are the top five benefits you have seen as a result of regularly posting in this journal?
B) What are the top five problem areas you have identified as a result of regularly posting in this journal?
C) Were you initially reluctant to start this trading journal? If yes, why?
D) How do you feel, overall, about your journaling experience?
E) Would you recommend to others that they should also start a trading journal?
Thank you for taking the time to answer my questions. I appreciate your posts, and I hope you have benefited from your journal. I also know that others will benefit as well, just by reading about your own experiences.
Enjoy your weekend,
Mike
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A) What are the top five benefits you have seen as a result of regularly posting in this journal?
Discussion with the futures.io (formerly BMT) cracks/readers on the rule sets of my trading - have appreciated every input - many thanks to all contributors
to my thread as well to all followers reading every input on the thread
Look-back and test of the sense of every rule and the stop settings
Being aware that "many eyes are looking over my shoulder live"
Best exercise for self-discipline
Testing the grounds on consistency under more difficult situation - in a live situation
B) What are the top five problem areas you have identified as a result of regularly posting in this journal?
Had only some time restrictions with announcing / posting and reviewing the rules for a trade while taking
the trade / posting on futures.io (formerly BMT) and Twitter at the same time
C) Were you initially reluctant to start this trading journal? If yes, why?
No
D) How do you feel, overall, about your journaling experience?
As I am twittering my trades live already the journal was a surplus on discussion with many futures.io (formerly BMT) members
which gave chances to optimize my own trading style and to see how others would see it from a different angle.
E) Would you recommend to others that they should also start a trading journal?
YES - I must recommend a trading journal from newby on sim to cracks - to test the own edge with supervision under live conditions
Many thanks to BigMike for this great platform and the possibility to get to so many great traders with a zillion of ideas.
GFIs1
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