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Further info on the method:

This article and more available at Investopedia.com


Maybe the concept of establishing price targets shown by the triangles is something unique. Don't know how well it works but I'm a curious cat so I'll follow this journal.

Isn't the triangle just a 100% ext?

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Hello all,

many thanks for the interests and questions to the forecast method.

I wish to emphasis that J-Chart is both the name of the method and also the software used to create my charts. I am only discussing the theory of J-Chart and not on the software which is just a means of applying the theory, once the theory is known, you can use any software/means to apply the theory of J-Chart.

Attached are some seminar notes from Mr Chen, the founder of the theory of J-Chart.

hope it is helpful

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TheSeeker View Post
Further info on the method:

This article and more available at Investopedia.com

Software is called J-Chart, just google it.


I've come across this method over 10 years ago, to me there are lots of similarities with Market Profile. Using ticks vs. TPOs doesn't make a great difference to me.

Market forms an equilibrium /balance and breaks out of that equilibrium at some point in time, makes a large move to then balance again and so forth, nothing new here.

Maybe the concept of establishing price targets shown by the triangles is something unique. Don't know how well it works but I'm a curious cat so I'll follow this journal.

Hello TheSeeker,

many thanks for being able to recognise the method after such a long time, i wish to emphasis that J-Chart is both the name of the theory and the software used to generate the charts and for analysis. I am just discussing the theory of J-Chart, and i have attached some notes on it in my previous post.

I do think there is a huge difference in using tick data vs TPOs.

Hope this is helpful.

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Is this a conclusion of what there have happened.?

Can you put something for the future. next 2 hours or something like that.?

Hello jta3,

I do agree that it looks like a conclusion of what that have happened, this is because that was a real time trading and it happen fast and furious due to the sudden spikes.

The main point is to show that the method holds up well even in fast moving market.

I did post a few longer position trades that show event before happening, you can refer to post 1, 2 and post 7, 8 and 15 and i have posted a EURUSD chart and we can see if target is reached (not yet).

I am also attaching 2 more charts on real time trading for ES, also to show that it is able to hold up well in intra-day trading.

In addition, i have also attach some notes by Mr Chen in my previous post (post 32) to explain more the theory of J-Chart which also have some example day trading trades.

Hope this helps.

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Ok, @ ecmf why not cut the chase and give up your indicator and tell @ bluemele and others how they can duplicate your method. No disrespect but so far nothing is really explained and nothing is learned.

Hello aligator,

thank you for your interests. You may refer to post 32 where i have attached some notes on the method.

Hope it is helpful

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Isn't the triangle just a 100% ext?

Hello bluemele,

many thanks for the interests, you may want to refer to my post 32 and it is not 100% ext.

Hope it is helpful.

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Hello all,

attached is a picture for EURUSD after the massive intervention efforts by the central banks. As we can see in the picture, the the lower part of the triangle (yellow dotted rectangle) is fairly saturated and price has been trapped in the range for a while, do note that the upper part of the triangle is still unfilled, since price is not able to go below the triangle, breaking it, it will move up to fill the upper part. A up move is due to complete the equilibrium. The intervention by the central banks is just a trigger for price to move higher.

Do note that even with this massive intervention, the equilibrium 13530---13371---13211 held firm.

more details can be seen on the chart.

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hello all,

attached is another chart for S&P500 today trading. i apologizes for not uploading earlier as we are caught up with the trading frenzy.

best regards

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this is just another way of looking at s/r and the balance of the market there are many ways to see the same thing,from what i know of this method it is not something speacial just another way of seeing price and what it has done,if you can already trade and understand price action and how to read vol,then you are already doing the same thing basically.or if you understand how to use s/r properly then you can also acheive the same results.but everyone has a different ability to learn and it might take one method to make them see what another method could not show them even if it is showing them the same thing...sharky

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