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rwhitt
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My coach has me writing every 5 minutes while trading. I am to write What I am feeling, Why I am feeling it and IS THIS IN MY BEST interest. So, here goes

Feel anxious. I think because I had a good week, but still lost max one day and wiped out all 4 good days, so am scared. Also feel like I can execute and if I execute, I will probably make money.


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My coach has me writing every 5 minutes while trading. I am to write What I am feeling, Why I am feeling it and IS THIS IN MY BEST interest. So, here goes

Feel anxious. I think because I had a good week, but still lost max one day and wiped out all 4 good days, so am scared. Also feel like I can execute and if I execute, I will probably make money.


Losing is never pleasant, I agree.

If one loss wiped out 4 days of profit it is highly likely that at least one of this sentences are true:

- Bad money management. I.e you scale between 0.5- 5% risk per trade
- Negative R:R to obtain high hit-rate. I.e 20 ticks stop loss 5 ticks target profit

Is this the case Rwhitt?

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I can dialogue about this later, but am trading right now. The issue with me has been me and this exercise, when I do it, causes me to make better choices.

W feel anxious, but hopeful. Starting to see my first possbile entry
W it is 8:24, so pre market jitters
B yes, sizing up is in my best interest

 
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status is same, still sizing up and waiting on JP to get Omnovia fixed

 
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feel like shorting TF, sizing up NQ as a hedge cause ON is asshort and we are at top of range.

 
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still sizing up. TF is at 746 and NQ at 2356, glad I waited, as I woudl be spread and sweating right now. I sitll see it as a short for now

 
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feel like short TF at 746, now missed it. Crap. Still waiting. Feel oK, but now have to watch myself for revenge trade

 
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want to put a trade on so bad. Glad I waited, but frustrated cause TF was good short, but missed and now it has rotated back up. Euro kind of blowing out the top a little. Will wait a little longer. 8:49 am NQ and TF are tracking , but TF seems to be lagging behind. I think the long NQ and short TF is still a working startategy for this morning

 
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Frustrated. Keep seeing trades, but not taking them. Was thinking of a long NQ at 2358, it went to 2361 a minute ago. Still waiting. JP is talking about an area now.

 
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missed again. OMG I am such a chickenshit. Was mixed. TF looked like it could go either way. I am chilling now, looking for another entry. Huddy called a short that is working, I didn't go with.

 
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loong NQ. Will add 2nd at 2350. Long from 2354.25

 
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will add a 2nd NQ at 2349.25 and will take a TF short at 738. Waiting.

Feel calm, hopeful. This is the strategy. I can't make it work, I can only execute.

 
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Thinking of protecting entery on NQ. At 2354 now

 
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2nd NQ filled at 2349.25. Will take a TF hedge spread short at 738, or will take off an NQ at 2355-ish as a 1st scale

 
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took one nq at 2352, still holding one

 
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NQ needs to break 2353 or 2345. TF is holding up, so still waiting on this last long to work. At 2350.25 now, was down to 2348-ish. Still waiting and watching charts, not the DOMS' so taht is good. Crap, now it is testing lower araea again.

 
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feel like adding another NQ at 2345-2348 and hedging with YM, as YM seems to be more closely correlated at teh moment. YM would need to be 11920 or 11900 area as fail area. Waiting for a TICK spke to add a 2d nq. Good area.

 
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2nd NQ 2344. Will take one at 2348 and hold the other. Will short YM at 11920 or 11910 as my first hedge. Will take a 2nd, if needed to spread and hold

 
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first hour IB is almost in. Shorted YM 11912

 
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Following stopping YM have stop at 11911 and target at 11900. filled my stop. Flat YM. Will re add if failing here.

 
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Really not helpful to watch money while waiting. Triggers teh freakout in me. Need to turn that crap onff and wathc the cahrts.

 
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counting on retracement here. HOw muich is reasonable? Added third NQ ast 2337. Did not take YM at 11900. Will add a YM short at 11885 and a second at 11875

 
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3 nq now. Will take one off at 2243

 
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No offense, but I'm getting stressed out by just reading this thread.

How is this going to make you a better trader?

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I am trading. This is my 5 minute routine. I am in a trade.

 
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looks like a turn. Will take 1 nq at 2343, still looking at ym 11885 as first hedge short. One or the other at this point.

 
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Wathcing for roll down here. Will take YM if it rolls

 
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SHort YM 11885. Took aff at 11896. Will re add 11885 if it gets back there. Still watching

 
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YM stopped out. THinking of radding. Radded at 11875

 
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Flipping hard to do this 5 minute thing and work the trade. Out of YM now and holding 3 NQ longs still. This bites

 
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TF holding Globex low, so that is a good sign. Need NQ to get back to 2345 to make money. Will keep sizing up hedge spreads to hold. May take a while or may not do it at all. We'll see.

 
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NQ needs to break 2340. Seems to have sold off more than the others.

 
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YM break 900. That is good. TF needs to break 38, Ym needs to break 920. Looking to take a quick YMJ short to buidlcap for hold. Watching ES delta for timing

 
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ES has to claer 47. Watching to put on YM short as ES rises or falls here

 
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6E is rising. That may be playing into the moves at this time.Duh. fgures.

 
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shorted YM 894

 
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YM flat now

 
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This is going back up. To where, though? What is the pain level they are trying to inflict?

 
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Needs to work now or I will need to cover with YM 2 shorts. TF taking off, so that is good. At IB low. We'll see.

 
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short trigger is YM 880's and 870's. Will add shorts there, if needed, to help hold on.

 
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Obstacle is the IB low, can't get back in. Something is oging to break here. UP or down. I'll be with it.

 
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YM shiort 879

 
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flat Ym. Watiing to see if we go up, will add YM again in 870s

 
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Remembering to breathe. Still watching.

 
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short YM 870

 
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flat ym. Will add if needed

 
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Remembering to breathe and exectute. Still have 3 nq long, flat YM. YM needs to break 885 and I can breathe easier will short it at 870's again if needed to protect.

 
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CL rallying, 6E being non commital 10:36 and markets are being non decisisve. waiting on something. No matter. Trigger is 870's to protect. Short Ym 867

 
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flat YM. May readd. Restin g 860 order

 
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Starting to get tired. Need to go to the bathroom, too much cofffee. WIll leave the reasting order at 860 and be back. Have coaching call in 45 minutes. Woudl like to be positive on this trade for that call. Not up to me. Just execute. That is my job.

 
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Get Jeff some coffee, quick!

 
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This is my trading journal. Stop reading it if it bothers you. I am in a trade.

 
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The only thing I control is my abiltiy to put on and take off. Cannot control the markets. My job is to execute. ANd, not get overleveraged. Funky day, so far.

 
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May short YM at 891, for grins, maybe make a few ticks while waiting for the turn up, if we ever get a turn up

 
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I'm all for whatever helps you, but my only complaint is that it negates the usefullness of the new post box. Perhaps admin can remove this thread from showing up there?

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I'm all for whatever helps you, but my only complaint is that it negates the usefullness of the new post box. Perhaps admin can remove this thread from showing up there?

That is exactly my point.......thank you vegasfoster.........this is a forum............

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Stop replying to me. I am journaling. Maybe that is not what this is for, but htought I would try it. I am in a trade. Stop replying to me.

 
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If you guys want to dialogue, wati til I am out of this trade adn I"ll talk For now I am doing my 5 minute routine

 
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Wouldn't pressing record on a video every 5 minutes be better as you could start it and talk for a minute every 5 minutes and then stop it, and then you could review it at the end of the trading session and so keep focused on the trading during the session instead of typing. Just a thought. Good luck

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CL still inching up. 6E looking like it may go test the IB low to go up. 860's still my failsafe trigger. May try the 891 short to make a few ticks while this bottom develops into a bottom or another down move.

 
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Bullish $TICK divergence on the last low in the ES, Fed is currently doing a pass for 2.5BB, as the BOTS take a break from stepping down the market. Must remember to breathe-scratching my balls now - gosh darn , that feels good, gonna have another shot of jack and then buy some more...what the heck...it's only money!!!

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If you guys want to dialogue, wati til I am out of this trade adn I"ll talk For now I am doing my 5 minute routine

We don't want to dialogue.......we just want you to shut up.

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6e and CL still holding. Will continue to work 860 as failsafe adn just wait. Feel calm. Exectuion is my job

 
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Shorted YM 866, flat now. 860 is still trigger area. Feel calm. Still need to go to bathroom. Geesh. Move already.

 
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ES keeps rolling up on this bottom. May catch an up tick here

 
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Ugh, the waiting. Is ES rolling for up tick or rolling to take another down dump. My job is to execute and breathe. NQ is looking up ish. Break 2240's and I am looking good. Still leaning on YM 860's as failsafe.

 
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YM 880 short. Will hold it for a minute or two and see what happens. May have triggered it too soon. Getting flinchy.

 
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Did that cause ES left unfinished biz at 42's. WIll hold this YM until ES cleans up the 42s'. Will hold the NQ's til 2245 area and take one off. Might add a second YM short there. Will see what it looks like when it gets there.

 
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YeeeHa!!! ES is squeezing and the curve is bleeding as the Fed does the twist. Still very long, but what if Berlusconi disappears and is later photographed bouncing slavic hookers of his knee in some non-extradictable retirement home for deposed tyrants in the Emirates? Looks like I picked a bad day to stop sniffing glue!

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rwhitt....just a suggestion that I hope you honor.

Many of us use the Trading Forum Chatbox to keep up with what people are doing throughout the day. So, each time you post to your journal and click on the submit button, we see a link to your post. At the present time there are 40 total posts in the Trading Forum Chatbox with 29 of them being your's. That overwhelming number of posts by you in your personal journal renders the Trading Forum Chatbox useless to the rest of us. So, my suggestion is that you not click on the Submit button until the end of your trading day. That would alleviate the problem we now have and still give you the journaling capability that you obviously want. Sure would be nice and considerate.

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Flat YM. Still looking at 860's as failsafe. Markets seem to be looking up-ish ffor now. May short YM again around 900

 
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CL going up, so that is good. at 95.46 now. Great, big TICK down, what the hey? 860 is still my failsafe. Breathing

 
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Took YMJ off too soon, kind of getting wacked right now. Will readd 830.

 
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flat YM again.

 
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 Lornz 
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Hey, you have been asked nicely to stop. Why don't you?

You are going to piss off the whole board and possibly end up getting banned...

I am sure you mean well, but you are rendering the chatbox updates useless.

Don't think I won't hunt you down!

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Feel calm, waiting. Nice to hear JP is long at 1238. May work.

 
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Is this not a journal? I am new to this forum. If this is not what it is for, I can journal on my desktop. I thought this was a trade journal. I am in a trade. and I am journaling.

 
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On phone with coach. Not much to say here. Still 3 longs in NQ

 
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