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Just thought I would give a heads up on some new indicators created over at Tradestaion in the forums. Free of course.
https://www.tradestation.com/Discussions/Topic.aspx?Topic_ID=111579

https://www.tradestation.com/Discussions/Topic.aspx?Topic_ID=111580

https://www.tradestation.com/Discussions/Topic.aspx?Topic_ID=111585

https://www.tradestation.com/Discussions/Topic.aspx?Topic_ID=111587

there are others as well, these seemed more interesting

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That last one is nice. I was not aware that OOEL was able to do multi time frame calculations from one indicator. For those who don't have tradestation or access to the support site, this is the description for the one I'm talking about:
This RSI indicator example is set up to look across three different time frames and alert the trader when an oversold or overbought condition exists across all three multi-dimensional times.
It's interesting to me because I'm looking at building a multi time frame indicator and this should give me some insight on how to do it with OOEL instead of the ADE/GlobalDictionary approach. The others are some pretty nifty eye candy. I'm not smart enough to understand that activator indicator....

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re data issues at TS .... that is why I left them several years ago but since I like their platform so much and they have a new data center, I was 'hoping' the data issues were gone, which is why I popped some token money back into an account there.

Is anyone else having data issues with them? I am not, with futures anyway, after one week back in the fold.

The data fees are pretty unacceptable if you're trading multiple exchange instruments ( a big mistake for their business is not participating in the CME fee waiver; maybe they will, with new ownership) but I'm not so I live with the CME fee as the price of having a great platform (as user friendly as it gets) with massive, easily accessible (key) historical data for back testing.

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re data issues at TS .... that is why I left them several years ago but since I like their platform so much and they have a new data center, I was 'hoping' the data issues were gone, which is why I popped some token money back into an account there.

Is anyone else having data issues with them? I am not, with futures anyway, after one week back in the fold.

The data fees are pretty unacceptable if you're trading multiple exchange instruments ( a big mistake for their business is not participating in the CME fee waiver; maybe they will, with new ownership) but I'm not so I live with the CME fee as the price of having a great platform (as user friendly as it gets) with massive, easily accessible (key) historical data for back testing.

I'm starting to totally regret going down the Easy Language path.

1) TS does not natively support limit orders. So essentially, if you trade tick/tick you have to do some very painful and sophisticated workarounds in order to not violate the "15 second" rule. If your exits update more than once every 15 seconds, the TS stop server will not hold your stops.

2) You can still only get 6 months of tick data. Which isn't a big deal for some, for others, it's a nuisance. I can't populate "advanced" or tick based bars any further back than 6 months. So there's no backtesting further than 6 months for tick based charts.

3) You can only get 18 months of even basic chart data. Ironically, the Sharpe ratio won't even calculate with less than 36 months of data.

4) Trading multiple strategies on the same instrument/symbol is a non-starter. Still can't do it without serious headaches. So portfolio trading is out the window unless you open several accounts and pay for several data feeds. (you can do it, but the "position checks" don't work).

The list of limitations is quickly piling up for me. I'm starting to regret going the "Easy" route. I'm even debating dumping all that I've learned in EL and starting over with Ninja or something more capable.

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I'm starting to totally regret going down the Easy Language path.

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The list of limitations is quickly piling up for me. I'm starting to regret going the "Easy" route. I'm even debating dumping all that I've learned in EL and starting over with Ninja or something more capable.

I think you mean you regret going down the TradeStation path. As far as I know after taking a quick glance at those issues you listed, MultiCharts can do all of them. After all, MultiCharts was designed with automation in mind. It is much more powerful than TradeStation, and in my opinion NinjaTrader, when it comes to what it can do with automated strategies.

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My trading has evolved to several simple -- for me -- techniques where I don't use that fine level of tick accuracy to auto-initiate the trades so it's not an issue for me with TS. Plus, I'm not executing multiple strats per symbol.

I've never had a problem with getting non-tick data going WAY back, on the cme futures or any stock symbols. That's been one of the strengths of TS for me; getting lots of historical data without any futzing around.

TS hopefully has put their data issues behind them.

As far as just being usable and user friendly from the git-go, TS was/is easier for me to use than MC but I can understand where someone who is doing more complex stuff and who really knows what they're doing with the platform would like MC more - I always welcome comparisons between the two.

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