NexusFi: Find Your Edge


Home Menu

 





why renko is danger


Discussion in Traders Hideout

Updated
      Top Posters
    1. looks_one RJay with 13 posts (1 thanks)
    2. looks_two wh with 12 posts (1 thanks)
    3. looks_3 Big Mike with 6 posts (1 thanks)
    4. looks_4 TheWizard with 4 posts (1 thanks)
      Best Posters
    1. looks_one TheWizard with 0.3 thanks per post
    2. looks_two Big Mike with 0.2 thanks per post
    3. looks_3 RJay with 0.1 thanks per post
    4. looks_4 wh with 0.1 thanks per post
    1. trending_up 33,784 views
    2. thumb_up 4 thanks given
    3. group 8 followers
    1. forum 31 posts
    2. attach_file 8 attachments




 
Search this Thread

why renko is danger

  #21 (permalink)
 
Big Mike's Avatar
 Big Mike 
Manta, Ecuador
Site Administrator
Developer
Swing Trader
 
Experience: Advanced
Platform: Custom solution
Broker: IBKR
Trading: Stocks & Futures
Frequency: Every few days
Duration: Weeks
Posts: 50,440 since Jun 2009
Thanks Given: 33,212
Thanks Received: 101,599

RJay,

I have never looked at a Renko chart but I know that Bill over at End of Trend trading dedicates Friday's of every week in his trading room to Renko trading.

Ever checked it out? I am a new member of EOT so I will plan to do so, it looks very promising to filter out all the noise.

Mike

Follow me on Twitter Visit my NexusFi Trade Journal Reply With Quote

Can you help answer these questions
from other members on NexusFi?
ZombieSqueeze
Platforms and Indicators
How to apply profiles
Traders Hideout
Better Renko Gaps
The Elite Circle
MC PL editor upgrade
MultiCharts
NT7 Indicator Script Troubleshooting - Camarilla Pivots
NinjaTrader
 
Best Threads (Most Thanked)
in the last 7 days on NexusFi
Just another trading journal: PA, Wyckoff & Trends
34 thanks
Tao te Trade: way of the WLD
24 thanks
My NQ Trading Journal
14 thanks
Vinny E-Mini & Algobox Review TRADE ROOM
13 thanks
GFIs1 1 DAX trade per day journal
11 thanks
  #22 (permalink)
 
wh's Avatar
 wh 
Neubrandenburg, Germany
 
Experience: Advanced
Platform: R
Trading: Stocks
Posts: 538 since Jun 2009
Thanks Given: 298
Thanks Received: 512


RJay View Post
Mike,

Check out EOT for us and post.


RenkoMedianBars ATS progress, I have most open trade points defined.

A lot more to do yet. What exit strategy? Scalp, Reverse, Hmmmmm.....

See Attached.

RJay

RJAY please look inside.
Some modification for your renkomedian ...
Best regards
Arne

Attached Files
Elite Membership required to download: DoubleZeroLagMAStrat.cs
Started this thread Reply With Quote
  #23 (permalink)
 
TheWizard's Avatar
 TheWizard 
Houston, TX
Market Wizard
 
Experience: Intermediate
Platform: NinjaTrader
Broker: Optimus Futures, AMP, CQG
Trading: 6E
Posts: 1,731 since Jun 2009
Thanks Given: 517
Thanks Received: 4,224


Rjay, You're right on "having to watch another chart" to see what's going on. I don't like that either. I'd like to know everything I need to know in one chart. As far as the tails, I guess I have a resentment against tails. I've tried to read them in the past (exhaustion / trend change, etc) and can't find any consistency, even though there are experts out there who keep trying to convince us in webinars, etc. that you can read them & trade profitably by doing so. I just can't seem to get it right when it comes to reading tails.

Reply With Quote
  #24 (permalink)
 
Big Mike's Avatar
 Big Mike 
Manta, Ecuador
Site Administrator
Developer
Swing Trader
 
Experience: Advanced
Platform: Custom solution
Broker: IBKR
Trading: Stocks & Futures
Frequency: Every few days
Duration: Weeks
Posts: 50,440 since Jun 2009
Thanks Given: 33,212
Thanks Received: 101,599


TheWizard View Post
Rjay, You're right on "having to watch another chart" to see what's going on. I don't like that either. I'd like to know everything I need to know in one chart.

Everyone should find what works for them. For me, I tried for a long time to have the perfect single chart. But in the end it was a lost cause. I now use three charts to trade: small, medium, large. I've written about it several times so won't go into details, but I think you should step back and ask yourself why you only want one chart, what the goal or purpose of that is?

If your answer is so that everything "agrees", from my experience you'd be better off with two or three charts, with each of those having far, far fewer indicators. Each chart only needs 2 or 3 nice indicators on it and the multiple time frames (small, big, large) is what will help you decide direction, pullback, etc.

Just my 2 cents!

Mike

Follow me on Twitter Visit my NexusFi Trade Journal Reply With Quote
Thanked by:
  #25 (permalink)
 
TheWizard's Avatar
 TheWizard 
Houston, TX
Market Wizard
 
Experience: Intermediate
Platform: NinjaTrader
Broker: Optimus Futures, AMP, CQG
Trading: 6E
Posts: 1,731 since Jun 2009
Thanks Given: 517
Thanks Received: 4,224

Mike, Actually, just the reverse feels more true for me. In watching 2 or 3 charts, I tend to take the signals from (& I'm probably doing it wrong) the fastest chart & usually end up getting screwed. 3 minute chart might indicate go long, 5 minute looks like that may be correct, 10 minute indicates 'hold your position'. So, I go long (or reverse position) only to find out it WAS just a retracement in a downtrend & I should have listened to what the 10min chart was telling me. Maybe I can learn to read multiple charts & make the correct decision, but at this point, it just seems to confuse me further. I just eliminated what I consider to be unnecessary indicators from my chart for today, as suggested by several in the forum & it looks simple..easy to read...if I just go long/short at the cross, it seems a nice easy simple way to be profitable. You're right about fewer indicators. Just adds more confusion. Here's a sample:

Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	Picture 2.png
Views:	568
Size:	133.8 KB
ID:	177  
Reply With Quote
  #26 (permalink)
 
Big Mike's Avatar
 Big Mike 
Manta, Ecuador
Site Administrator
Developer
Swing Trader
 
Experience: Advanced
Platform: Custom solution
Broker: IBKR
Trading: Stocks & Futures
Frequency: Every few days
Duration: Weeks
Posts: 50,440 since Jun 2009
Thanks Given: 33,212
Thanks Received: 101,599


TheWizard View Post
Mike, Actually, just the reverse feels more true for me. In watching 2 or 3 charts, I tend to take the signals from (& I'm probably doing it wrong) the fastest chart & usually end up getting screwed. 3 minute chart might indicate go long, 5 minute looks like that may be correct, 10 minute indicates 'hold your position'. So, I go long (or reverse position) only to find out it WAS just a retracement in a downtrend & I should have listened to what the 10min chart was telling me. Maybe I can learn to read multiple charts & make the correct decision, but at this point, it just seems to confuse me further. I just eliminated what I consider to be unnecessary indicators from my chart for today, as suggested by several in the forum & it looks simple..easy to read...if I just go long/short at the cross, it seems a nice easy simple way to be profitable. You're right about fewer indicators. Just adds more confusion. Here's a sample:

TheWizard,

You should use whatever is making money for you. If you are interested in my approach, I just wrote a thread to help you and others, so we don't hijack this thread too far off topic.



Mike

Follow me on Twitter Visit my NexusFi Trade Journal Reply With Quote
  #27 (permalink)
 indextrader7 
Birmingham, AL
 
Posts: 1,065 since Apr 2012


TheWizard View Post
Mike, Actually, just the reverse feels more true for me. In watching 2 or 3 charts, I tend to take the signals from (& I'm probably doing it wrong) the fastest chart & usually end up getting screwed. 3 minute chart might indicate go long, 5 minute looks like that may be correct, 10 minute indicates 'hold your position'. So, I go long (or reverse position) only to find out it WAS just a retracement in a downtrend & I should have listened to what the 10min chart was telling me. Maybe I can learn to read multiple charts & make the correct decision, but at this point, it just seems to confuse me further. I just eliminated what I consider to be unnecessary indicators from my chart for today, as suggested by several in the forum & it looks simple..easy to read...if I just go long/short at the cross, it seems a nice easy simple way to be profitable. You're right about fewer indicators. Just adds more confusion. Here's a sample:

TheWizard,

What is that SMI2 Indicator you're using? Looks pretty interesting.

Reply With Quote
  #28 (permalink)
 
cory's Avatar
 cory 
virginia
 
Experience: Intermediate
Platform: ninja
Trading: NQ
Posts: 6,098 since Jun 2009
Thanks Given: 877
Thanks Received: 8,090


indextrader7 View Post
TheWizard,

What is that SMI2 Indicator you're using? Looks pretty interesting.

user search feature keyword 'SMI'
https://nexusfi.com/search/attachments/

Reply With Quote
  #29 (permalink)
 
TheWizard's Avatar
 TheWizard 
Houston, TX
Market Wizard
 
Experience: Intermediate
Platform: NinjaTrader
Broker: Optimus Futures, AMP, CQG
Trading: 6E
Posts: 1,731 since Jun 2009
Thanks Given: 517
Thanks Received: 4,224


indextrader7 View Post
TheWizard,

What is that SMI2 Indicator you're using? Looks pretty interesting.

Search - Big Mike's Trading Forum

page 4, near the bottom. Several 'variations' of StochasticMomentumIndex (SMI) to choose from.

After all, it's what you learn AFTER you know it all, that counts!
Reply With Quote
Thanked by:
  #30 (permalink)
 syxforex 
British Columbia
 
Experience: Advanced
Platform: NINJA
Broker: ZEN
Trading: Crude
Posts: 1,091 since May 2010


Hey Mike, are you still a member of EOT?


Big Mike View Post
RJay,

I have never looked at a Renko chart but I know that Bill over at End of Trend trading dedicates Friday's of every week in his trading room to Renko trading.

Ever checked it out? I am a new member of EOT so I will plan to do so, it looks very promising to filter out all the noise.

Mike


Visit my NexusFi Trade Journal Reply With Quote




Last Updated on February 25, 2014


© 2024 NexusFi™, s.a., All Rights Reserved.
Av Ricardo J. Alfaro, Century Tower, Panama City, Panama, Ph: +507 833-9432 (Panama and Intl), +1 888-312-3001 (USA and Canada)
All information is for educational use only and is not investment advice. There is a substantial risk of loss in trading commodity futures, stocks, options and foreign exchange products. Past performance is not indicative of future results.
About Us - Contact Us - Site Rules, Acceptable Use, and Terms and Conditions - Privacy Policy - Downloads - Top
no new posts