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You want to be closer to where ZenFire servers are. It may not be Chicago.

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No, ZenFire servers are in Chicago (4 routers from my VPS's, and 1 or 2 ms). I think I have a traceroute and a ping screenshot in another thread (in Elite forum).

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The best server location is not really easy to find sometimes. Thus, for me the following question to all data centers & Run-time professionals:
Where would be the best hosting location (city & provider) for the following setup (a more detailed analysis would be nice):

FDAX/Eurex/Zenfire/NT7/Mirus

I live in Austria, which is probably not another hurdle, right? might be a little more difficult then the installation and maintenance ....

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so I've been looking around for this information on and off for a year now and have yet to find any good information.

I trade CL futures on an automated system that enters into trades on stop market orders. Soooo, on about 1/3 to 1/4 of my trades I can get slippage of 2-3 ticks. My current VPS is out of Toronto and has a ping of about 30ms to the trading server. I am looking for something with faster turnaround, anybody know anything ?

I know that Mirus offers hosting services where their cheapest vps is colocated at the exchange, and has a ping time of less than 1 ms, but their rate is $350/month for the basic setup, up to $550 for the beefier vps.

Please let me know if you guys know of something better than I have but not as pricey as Mirus' solution.

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so I've been looking around for this information on and off for a year now and have yet to find any good information.

I trade CL futures on an automated system that enters into trades on stop market orders. Soooo, on about 1/3 to 1/4 of my trades I can get slippage of 2-3 ticks. My current VPS is out of Toronto and has a ping of about 30ms to the trading server. I am looking for something with faster turnaround, anybody know anything ?

I know that Mirus offers hosting services where their cheapest vps is colocated at the exchange, and has a ping time of less than 1 ms, but their rate is $350/month for the basic setup, up to $550 for the beefier vps.

Please let me know if you guys know of something better than I have but not as pricey as Mirus' solution.

Many options have been discussed. @sam028 offers a service to futures.io (formerly BMT) members for around $50/mo, with a 1ms ping to Zen Fire. You can also get your own dedicated server in Chicago for around $100/mo or $150/mo. 30ms ping is terrible, you want to get rid of that.

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@pepelucho, as I told you I don't have any available slot today, so you'll have to wait a bit to test one of my VPS, but you may have an option with Optimus Futures. I think their are offering to run their customers strategies, on their own server, located in the same datacenter as Rithmic, and it's free. I don't have all the details, you should ask @mattz for that. Optimus seems to be a good and popular broker, as good or better than Mirus, so it's maybe a good option.
Having your own server is more confortable, because you can really what's happening in live, and not having your bot running somewhere else, with any realtime feedback available, but it's also time consuming and a bit expensive.



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so I've been looking around for this information on and off for a year now and have yet to find any good information.

I trade CL futures on an automated system that enters into trades on stop market orders. Soooo, on about 1/3 to 1/4 of my trades I can get slippage of 2-3 ticks. My current VPS is out of Toronto and has a ping of about 30ms to the trading server. I am looking for something with faster turnaround, anybody know anything ?

I know that Mirus offers hosting services where their cheapest vps is colocated at the exchange, and has a ping time of less than 1 ms, but their rate is $350/month for the basic setup, up to $550 for the beefier vps.

Please let me know if you guys know of something better than I have but not as pricey as Mirus' solution.


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Fascinating discussion.
I trade manually but, living in Europe, would like the
assurance of a vps or dedicated server.
Does anyone know of a platform allowing a slave on a remote
server to receive signals from a local client for opening
Futures orders? (Managing and closing being done auto by
the slave.)

Metatrader can do this through add-ons each side of the link
- called trade copiers.
For futures, one could presumably get away with a feed plus
something as simple as ButtonTrader or Bracket Trader - if
they were able to do the communication.

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whats automatic trading

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whats automatic trading

Hi,

You can program some platforms (MultiCharts, NinjaTrader, etc.) in order that they automatically transmit buy/sell orders to your broker in pre-defined conditions, without any human intervention.

For example, you can program your platform in the following way: "each time EMA10 crosses over EMA30 on ES future, buy 2 contracts, and sell them after 15 minutes" (not profitable, I guess !) and go to see a movie.

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Fascinating discussion.
I trade manually but, living in Europe, would like the
assurance of a vps or dedicated server.
Does anyone know of a platform allowing a slave on a remote
server to receive signals from a local client for opening
Futures orders? (Managing and closing being done auto by
the slave.)

Metatrader can do this through add-ons each side of the link
- called trade copiers.
For futures, one could presumably get away with a feed plus
something as simple as ButtonTrader or Bracket Trader - if
they were able to do the communication.

The easier is to code a simple strategy, which is listening on the network on a specified port, and send orders.
It's doable with some HttpWebRequest() in C# for example.

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The easier is to code a simple strategy, which is listening on the network on a specified port, and send orders.
It's doable with some HttpWebRequest() in C# for example.

Thanks Sam.
I'd infinitely prefer a ready-made solution.
Yours would require, I guess
- an app issuing orders
- your strategy picking them up and transmitting them to
- broker software with an api ??

Good trading

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