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question about supply

Gary, what is the difference between Supply and SOW? since both of them have big bar and big volume.

attached is 240 minutes 6E, I marked two big bars. I assume 6E will drop.

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Gary, what is the difference between Supply and SOW? since both of them have big bar and big volume.

attached is 240 minutes 6E, I marked two big bars. I assume 6E will drop.

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A sign of weakness bar is also considered a supply bar. A supply bar may not be a sign of weakness. We usually see a SOW on the right hand side of a trading range. A supply bar can occur anywhere in a Wyckoff sequence. A SOW is more specific than a supply bar. Both have large ranges down and increasing volume.

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On the daily chart, I cannot find any clue whether the operator tries to accumulate or distribute. Could you please take a look at my attached daily chart and tell me if there are any signs of accumulation on the area that I circled? Thanks a lot!


As a trader, I don't like to buy options with 30-40 left to expiration because this is where the premium erodes rapidly. As far as this specific chart is concerned, the sideways action after the move higher is most likely some time of accumulation process. But keep in mind, longer term, the trend is down. So this trading range you identified can rally to an area that will induce sellers and some type of ending action.

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As a trader, I don't like to buy options with 30-40 left to expiration because this is where the premium erodes rapidly. As far as this specific chart is concerned, the sideways action after the move higher is most likely some time of accumulation process. But keep in mind, longer term, the trend is down. So this trading range you identified can rally to an area that will induce sellers and some type of ending action.

Gary, I am wondering if the ES is building a major top right now? We had increasing volume from 1410 to 1360, and now during the bounce up to 1390, we don't see much volume on this up leg.

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Gary, I am wondering if the ES is building a major top right now? We had increasing volume from 1410 to 1360, and now during the bounce up to 1390, we don't see much volume on this up leg.


The whole rally, that we've had from 2009, has not been on high volume. As many retail customers have been on the sidelines. So most of the volume you see is institutional volume. I don't think high volume will be the norm for now. Regarding this particular trading range, I believe the key support is the 1353 area, and key resistance is the 1420 area. Since we are trading on the right side of this trading range, this usually resolves itself with a sign of weakness or a sign of strength. so a move outside this trading range, with increasing volume, will give us our clue. We must consider that the stocks market has been in an uptrend and it will take supply through support with follow through to have a change of behavior. The odds, due to trend, lean toward bullishness, but that can easily change.

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Gary,

I came across a list of Wyckoff concepts that attempt to summarize how to read a vertical chart the Wyckoff way and I like to get your opinion of what it is saying. Do you think these are accurate discriptions of how to read a price and volume chart?

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Gary,

I came across a list of Wyckoff concepts that attempt to summarize how to read a vertical chart the Wyckoff way and I like to get your opinion of what it is saying. Do you think these are accurate discriptions of how to read a price and volume chart?

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The chart you presented I would say is generally correct, but can vary with the different phases of the Wyckoff cycle and trend. I thought the spelling of "Whckoff" was interesting.

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The chart you presented I would say is generally correct, but can vary with the different phases of the Wyckoff cycle and trend.

Do you think the statement "Price movement should always be proportional to volume." is the correct way of looking at the charts in any Wyckoff phase? I assume that if price movement is not proportional to volume, then a change in trend is to be expected such as in a Price/Volume divergence?

What do you think, Gary?

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Do you think the statement "Price movement should always be proportional to volume." is the correct way of looking at the charts in any Wyckoff phase? I assume that if price movement is not proportional to volume, then a change in trend is to be expected such as in a Price/Volume divergence?

What do you think, Gary?


As a general rule, price and volume should be proportional. However, they could be out of whack as well, so I wouldn't read one bar with one volume as the catch all, tell all. We should look at price and volume in an area to tell us, versus only one bar. As I've said before, you need to try to understand the "story" of the market, versus looking for a small snapshot. For example, on days when reports happen or "event" days, you may see a disproportionate volume versus price.

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yes 6A


Gary, this is what I am waiting for....

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