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THE SWEET SCIENCE

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You guys are killing me.........

Tigertrader is very likely the best trader on this forum..........he is a professional with OVER 30 years of trading success!! Got that.........OVER 30 YEARS.

He has just shared information that if applied could very well make the difference between your success and failure....and you want to criticize him for the way he shares this information????? Give me a break.

Personally, I loved the analogy.

KEEP IT COMING TIGERTRADER

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Personally, I loved the analogy.


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That's because all the VS models stay at your villa in St. Bart.

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You guys are killing me.........

Tigertrader is very likely the best trader on this forum..........he is a professional with OVER 30 years of trading success!! Got that.........OVER 30 YEARS.

He has just shared information that if applied could very well make the difference between your success and failure....and you want to criticize him for the way he shares this information????? Give me a break.

Personally, I loved the analogy.

KEEP IT COMING TIGERTRADER

Jeff

Actually, I didn't get quite get the analogy until he explained it.

It could have been taken as one is achievable and one isn't or
it could have also been taken as one is straight forward and the other is high maintenance.



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Hi tiger,

Would that requires a change for trading and approach to the market?

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Tiger you are right on the money with your analogy! As a kid and teenager I took amateur boxing and if I may add to your post.

You can learn about your opponent (the market) prior to the fight but you will only discover if you can beat him or at the very least explore his vulnerabilities only when you step in the ring (sim versus real life trading).

Psychology plays a huge role because one good hit (a trading-loss) may scare you away and lose the entire fight (entire day of trading), regardless of all your prior harsh training. You have to shake off any thoughts of a loss when you have a break, keep looking at the opponent in the eye and come back focused. if you don't, you will waste your energy in the ring and lose focus by becoming desperate to win(vengeance trading), and we know where that leads.

You remember your losses more than your wins. They are the only ones that make you better, make you evaluate things and teach you not to be arrogant. The losses make you write thing down as you trace your opponent's moves (your trading journal).

At times when you think you win, the opponent could come out of nowhere with some renewed energy that you never anticipated (surprise mid day announcement by Ben b), so you only win in the end of the match, not through it! (consolidating your P&L at the end of the day).

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The point of my analogy, is that they both feel good, but the latter is a whole lot better. I'm not saying that you can't make money scalping, but between the commissions and the slippage, and reduced risk /reward parameters, it is very difficult to make larger amounts of money.

Maximizing your trades by holding onto your winners, and adding to your winners, when the market conditions allow, is a whole lot more profitable, if done correctly. Unfortunately, most traders don't have the patience to squeeze their winners, or if they do have the patience, they squeeze their losers also. It also requires additional risk tolerance, well placed stops, and better capitalization than scalping.

But when do you add to your winner? Let's say you are risking 1R and target 5R, at what stage do you add to your position or it's totally depends on the price action/context and it's different trade by trade.

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Well, 10 minutes later I see that I have no choice but to close this thread, people are unable to control what they post it seems.

I've deleted some of the off-topic and rude posts as well.

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