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Perhaps you can start a brief tutorial with annotated charts to help us understand your thought process on why these trades were taken. We'd all be very grateful.

Looks as though the method has promise based on your results.

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C--

Perhaps you can start a brief tutorial with annotated charts to help us understand your thought process on why these trades were taken. We'd all be very grateful.

Looks as though the method has promise based on your results.

What I plan to do is explain how cycles work and then explain how sine wave / phase shift oscillator works and how I use it. After that it just takes lots of practice and personalizing it to your taste.

I haven't done this already because very few people if any have been using the HVC pattern in their trading so I wasn't sure I should move on. Still debating on this. if you use only the sine wave and take every signal you will lose. Which is my experience with all indicators. In fact, it wasn't until I went 1 month without any indicators on my chart that I started learning to trade from price only. So I consider that a pre-requisite as well. And I seriously doubt many people here will stop and go 1 month without any indicators. So you can imagine that it's not easy to teach this stuff when people aren't really willing to do the work.

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Hard work is definetly the key. I'm sure everyone's level of passion is different but for me I eat/sleep/drink trading (although I dont' "drink" while I trade :-). I've put in 1000's of hours of hard work learning/failing/relearning/growing with regards to trading. Successful trading in my opinion is NOT about when A and B line up and C turns green and D and E are "oversold". Every tool has a specific use/strength/weakness. Knowing the limits of your tools provides valuable information.

As Cunparis said, markets are fractal in nature. Understanding this and incorporating it into both your mindset and system are crucial for long term success. I think philosophy (how you approach trading) and risk management are far more important than any one signal that can be generated by code.





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What I plan to do is explain how cycles work and then explain how sine wave / phase shift oscillator works and how I use it. After that it just takes lots of practice and personalizing it to your taste.

I haven't done this already because very few people if any have been using the HVC pattern in their trading so I wasn't sure I should move on. Still debating on this. if you use only the sine wave and take every signal you will lose. Which is my experience with all indicators. In fact, it wasn't until I went 1 month without any indicators on my chart that I started learning to trade from price only. So I consider that a pre-requisite as well. And I seriously doubt many people here will stop and go 1 month without any indicators. So you can imagine that it's not easy to teach this stuff when people aren't really willing to do the work.


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Hard work is definetly the key. I'm sure everyone's level of passion is different but for me I eat/sleep/drink trading (although I dont' "drink" while I trade :-).

I thought I was the only one. I actually dream about trading and I'm not joking. My brain works on solving problems, coming up with new ideas, etc. I wake up, often several hours before the alarm (like right now, it's 6:30am) and come to the computer to try and capture the ideas before they're gone. It's totally relaxing, no stress at all, especially since I'm doing very little swing trading now.

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Hey guys, I haven't been posting here for a while, the reason is I'm currently using Renko charts and my volume patterns indicator doesn't work with Renko. I'm quite puzzled about that, so I have my tradestation charts up on a few timeframes showing me the volume.

Anyway, I started a thread about trading with market cycles. In my trading, I use three things:

- breakouts of S/R including swing pivots
- volume
- cycles

If you're interested in market cycles, please take a look:

Market Cycles For Fun & Profit

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C--

Perhaps you can start a brief tutorial with annotated charts to help us understand your thought process on why these trades were taken. We'd all be very grateful.

Looks as though the method has promise based on your results.

Sorry, I missed this post. The new cycles thread will answer a lot of your questions. With cycles + volume that's 2/3 of my approach. Breakouts of swing pivots is the easy part. Which oddly enough, is enough to be profitable in and of itself.

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Hey guys, I haven't been posting here for a while, the reason is I'm currently using Renko charts and my volume patterns indicator doesn't work with Renko. I'm quite puzzled about that, so I have my tradestation charts up on a few timeframes showing me the volume.

Anyway, I started a thread about trading with market cycles. In my trading, I use three things:

- breakouts of S/R including swing pivots
- volume
- cycles

If you're interested in market cycles, please take a look:

Market Cycles For Fun & Profit

PS: Turning Point - I hope you will participate!

cunparis,

You are missing the high and the low of the bars in the Renko chart.

Also, indicators update a bar late.

This is causing strange volume patterns.

Please use Caution!!!

RJay

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cunparis,

You are missing the high and the low of the bars in the Renko chart.

Also, indicators update a bar late.

This is causing strange volume patterns.

Please use Caution!!!

RJay

Hi RJ, I'm using SBSRenko which seem to work well. I compare the high/low with my minute chart and I haven't found a difference.

My cycle indicator seems to work better with renko than it does minute, tick, and other types. So far I really like SBSRenko. I've been testing them for a week & a half now.

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Hi RJ, I'm using SBSRenko which seem to work well. I compare the high/low with my minute chart and I haven't found a difference.

My cycle indicator seems to work better with renko than it does minute, tick, and other types. So far I really like SBSRenko. I've been testing them for a week & a half now.


Renko vs SBSRenko !!! Big Difference!!!

Disregard my earlier post!!!

RJay

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Renko vs SBSRenko !!! Big Difference!!!

Disregard my earlier post!!!

RJay

Sorry I didn't clarify that. I tried renko on tradestation, crap. renko median were ok on NT, but roonius says sbsrenko is better so I am using that.

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