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I have developed a holy grail

  #41 (permalink)
 nites 
Belgrade, Serbia
 
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Wasted 2 day following this post with virtually no benefit. And skeptical will ever have valuable HG benefit.

Please stop posting till you are going to post your system which likely will take a single descriptive comprehensive and attachment(s) included post.

JUST DO IT

If I wanted to share HG with you, I would name thread, I'm sharing my HG with you.

I kindly ask you to stop wasting your time, and leave the thread, along with you Nike logo.


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FYI, this is my system on NQ (I don't trade YM) over the same time period trading 5 contracts doing all of the things you say do not work. From the red dot are real time trades. Not saying mine is better than yours just saying don't make sweeping statements that "linear algebra doesn't work".

I know there are many others on the site that can show the same.


It is not sweeping statement, it is true, whether you believe it or no.

How big is your account? 40k $ drawdown at start of trading could wipe your entire account.


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nites View Post
Would love to start a journal, I believe it would help me be accountable and more disciplined in taking the trades.

But
right now, I'm afraid it is not possible. I'm an field electrical engineer, setting up industrial machines across the world.
If in the future, trading becomes my only job, journal will be first thing I would do.

Thanks.



There might be differences in various markets, but all markets are, consider this very important:

Market is non - Gaussian and non - linear process.
The market is NOT a stationary process, which means that all tools based on linear algebra 95% traders use, stuff like MA, CCI, RSI or support/resistance, etc DOESN'T work.


Solution to this is to ditch all you've been told. And search for theory and application in physics that can model characteristics of the market I mentioned above.

So you have the holy grail, buddy, start trading and scale up, and you will 1000x what you make as a field engineer... but since you wont even use metatrader to setup automated trading for this "grail", I assume you have your own doubts about its robustness. Now... lets forget about metatrader and move on to tradestation, load in 15 years of 15 min data for the ES, and run your system, and post the results here. I will bet 1 bitcoin that you're system will bomb! 79 trades, are you pulling my leg.. Eckhardt said no less than a 1000 trades, remember him...? So cmon, lets see some real testing.

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lizmerrill
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Forget metatrader and shift over to tradestation...
load in 15 years of 15 min data or whatever frame you feel comfortable with, for es, and run your grail...
now post the hypothetical performance report here, and lets see your profit factor of 7 or greater...
you won't .... bet 1 bitcoin the system will bomb... 79 trades are you s%$^^tng me, you need 1000 trades to validate statistical validity... Cmon, dare you

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 nites 
Belgrade, Serbia
 
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Forget metatrader and shift over to tradestation...
load in 15 years of 15 min data or whatever frame you feel comfortable with, for es, and run your grail...
now post the hypothetical performance report here, and lets see your profit factor of 7 or greater...
you won't .... bet 1 bitcoin the system will bomb... 79 trades are you s%$^^tng me, you need 1000 trades to validate statistical validity... Cmon, dare you

I've developed it for MT, not very proficient in EasyLanguage. And also, Tradestation is not available for my country. The system is not designed to be automated in this condition, currently it is used as discretionary mechanical system. I'm planning to automate it in the future, but not very near.

I'm using this exact system with small improvements for ~2 years, there is significantly more than 1000 trades backtested + forward tested. Sadly, I did not record all backtests.

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 nites 
Belgrade, Serbia
 
Posts: 25 since Jul 2021

Here is another backtest for E6 - EURUSD from 1.01.2021 - 12.07.2021, with commissions included.

Same rules as for DJI30, without any optimization.




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Again, a too little of a sample size. Mate even though you are saying atm that you are not interested in selling it but it does look like you want to just post these to attract lambs to chopping block.

This forum is slightly different than other trading forums in that aspect, here you will generally find far more serious people who have been around far longer than the average trader age on other forums and with that comes lot of experience, but right now you are actively turning them against you instead of grabbing guidance or at least having a fruitful discussion with them.

At this point, no matter how I look at it, there just doesn't seem to be any other intent coming from you, even though some really good people like Kevindog with whom you could've genuinely discussed how to validate your system without revealing it have already commented but you blew past them.

I really don't understand here what else you could want other than "Congratulations for developing HG posts" and "truck load of DM's for interest in your system".

I'm not being harsh here, I spend most of my time in funny pic thread and I'm a lighthearted guy but I'm just calling it as I see it, pardon me if I stepped on any toes.

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Hello,

i think that the vibe in this thread getting worse without any reason. Everybody has it's own experiences and the human is being build to defend them. It's a long steady process to make changes to long lasting habits.

I find it's quite interesting, but not mind blowing, what @nites has to share and i think that he needs some time to settle down here. Listen, discuss and some proofing here and there and we will see, if there is any value in it.

Trading is an evolving game and lives from spawn weird ideas to successful trading.

Regards,
Koepisch

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 nites 
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Again, a too little of a sample size. Mate even though you are saying atm that you are not interested in selling it but it does look like you want to just post these to attract lambs to chopping block.



This forum is slightly different than other trading forums in that aspect, here you will generally find far more serious people who have been around far longer than the average trader age on other forums and with that comes lot of experience, but right now you are actively turning them against you instead of grabbing guidance or at least having a fruitful discussion with them.



At this point, no matter how I look at it, there just doesn't seem to be any other intent coming from you, even though some really good people like Kevindog with whom you could've genuinely discussed how to validate your system without revealing it have already commented but you blew past them.



I really don't understand here what else you could want other than "Congratulations for developing HG posts" and "truck load of DM's for interest in your system".



I'm not being harsh here, I spend most of my time in funny pic thread and I'm a lighthearted guy but I'm just calling it as I see it, pardon me if I stepped on any toes.

I've only posted two backtests, now counting ~150 trades, what sample size are you talking about?
I can't see much threads, where people post backtests and charts with their systems/methods.

You seem involved a lot in this, being light-hearted guy looking at cat pics. And why are you so concerned about selling system, even calling it chopping lambs, are you jealous, liable or what?

In industry where high 90% of people lose money, experience doesn't play much. I think you see lot of people here trading for more than 10 years and still losing money. Where is the guidance and advices from experience people, I only see fear of me selling system and non believers.
People here even don't know market is non - stationary process, but consider themselves experienced or knowledgeable.

You mentioned Kevin, I answered his question and I'm eager for any continuous discussion on the topic.

I'm sure people here that can look between the rows can get a good insight from me.

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 nites 
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Koepisch View Post
Hello,



i think that the vibe in this thread getting worse without any reason. Everybody has it's own experiences and the human is being build to defend them. It's a long steady process to make changes to long lasting habits.



I find it's quite interesting, but not mind blowing, what @nites has to share and i think that he needs some time to settle down here. Listen, discuss and some proofing here and there and we will see, if there is any value in it.



Trading is an evolving game and lives from spawn weird ideas to successful trading.



Regards,

Koepisch

Appreciate your comments, you have nailed the point.

We all defend our believes whether they are true or not. However, I'm always open to something that can improve our trading craft.

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nites View Post
If I wanted to share HG with you, I would name thread, I'm sharing my HG with you.



I kindly ask you to stop wasting your time, and leave the thread, along with you Nike logo.







It is not sweeping statement, it is true, whether you believe it or no.



How big is your account? 40k $ drawdown at start of trading could wipe your entire account.

There you go again, making assumptions about something you know nothing about. I was trying to help you and have some discussion but everything anyone says here gets turned to "I am right, everyone else is wrong".

As I stated earlier, there really is nothing to discuss. You aren't sharing anything, aren't trading it, and don't want to hear anything that anyone has to say. You are extremely condescending and jump to conclusions on things you know nothing about. I wish you good luck. Can file this thread in "useless garbage meant to waste your time" section as far as I'm concerned.

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