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Where to find Market Profile (TPO) chart
Updated July 18, 2023
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Where to find Market Profile (TPO) chart
February 18th, 2021, 05:26 PM
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LastDino
Yeah, get demo accounts.
Option 2 is try on tradingview, where you can search for market profile indicator in public library, its not going to be bell
tpo structure but only
POC and
value area lines.
I will also second @
Rrrracer in using
volume profile , which is also free on Tradingview in form of drawing tool as well as in public library. (In limited form)
If you have some coding skills, you can try things like excel/google sheet and python, it takes some doing and again it will require both data and some investment on time front.
Here is
screen shot of my own experiment with it, I made this year ago when I was also trading market profile (Now volume is my focus)
Market profile sample
Market profile fullview
One advice I would give is, its better to try and build excel or python thing, working on back end gives you much much better idea on how this works. And why if at all it would be useful or not in real trading. If you are anything like me, I think just the bare bones line version of poc and
value areas will suffice too. But I do not know if TV offers
CME data for free, so that's one more thing you need to check, maybe its there but I haven't checked since I don't trade it.
Good luck and most if not almost everything in trading world can be done for free, its just question of how much effort you are willing to put in
Thanks man! I am a software engineer, but for now i just need resources to study, so I can understand the market. I don't think the programing bit is complicated (I could be wrong) but I'm pretty sure the hardest thing is to get the algorithm right, and for that i need to understand this stuff better.
Can you help answer these questions from other members on NexusFi?
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February 18th, 2021, 05:28 PM
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bobwest
I agree with the last couple of comments, by @
mongoose and @
matthew28 . It is extremely easy to get
TPO charts, but in the trading world, very little is given out without some sort of fee or the expectation of getting your live, funded account.
So one thing you can do is sign up for free demo accounts, which are available for limited periods from brokers or providers of trading platforms.
CME exchange rules limit the duration of free live demo data to, as I recall, 15 days, but you generally can request, and get, another 15 day period. But you don't actually need non-delayed data for what you are looking for, so after the non-delayed period there will sometimes be a 10 or 15-minute delayed data feed offered, sometimes with a fee. In many cases it will not be (they want your trading account), but you can shop around, as well as simply open another demo account somewhere else.
I don't know anything about the Tradovate offering, but it sounds like something you could use. Note that they are a broker and so want your account. Check out what they offer. The trading platform is simple to use and they are well thought of.
I used the
Sierra Chart free demo account when I was looking around, a while ago now. They are a trading platform, not a broker, that many brokers offer as an option, but they will open a free demo for you also, with non-delayed data for a 15-day period. I recall getting another 15 days just by asking. After that, they have some inexpensive options with delayed data. I think the basic version, which doesn't include TPO, costs something like $26 per month, and the "advanced," which I believe does, goes for another $10 or so more, $36 if I remember. This may have changed. You would need to go on their web site and root around. Fair warning: Sierra Chart is one of the best platforms (in my opinion, the best), and you can get it to do practically anything you want, but there is a learning curve to it, and they don't make it easier by the very hard to figure out web site.
But if you are thinking about going into trading futures, you will need something to practice with, and something to use with your eventual broker account, and Sierra Chart will give you that.
Also, let me say that while the original market profile was dependent on tallying up how often price visited each level, in 30-minute increments, this was because, at the time, there was no better data available. Times have changed drastically, and there is no particular need to stay with the original version of the profile idea. It does work, and TPO based on 30-minute bars will give you a good idea of what traders are doing on any particular day. So would TPO on any other timeframe (minute, second, tick, literally whatever), and so would
volume profile , which gives you profiles that are pretty much the same and that are equally useful. It's not the exact representation that matters, it's what is being represented, which is what is going on in the price auction.
You can get the same understanding without using any kind of profile too -- looking at the price chart and seeing where price clusters, what levels it returns to, etc. Ordinary price charting with
support and resistance is showing you the same phenomenon. It's not the tool or the method that matters nearly so much as the comprehension of what's going on, and then the practical matters of when to trade it and -- most importantly -- how to limit your risk and control your losses. (No one makes YouTube videos on this, but, along with understanding your own emotional reactions as you face the risks of trading, it's the main thing that will make you successful or not.)
Good luck. It's a long trip you're on, and it can be rewarding, and sometimes fun. And hard.
Bob.
Sierra Chart is certainly on my list of platforms to try, I just installed Tradovate and so far I'm loving it (I have tried things like NT, MT4, IG, IBKR , ThinkorSwim and now Tradovate)
Thank you for the extra information about the volume profile, I have been seeing those, but baby steps
Cheers
February 18th, 2021, 05:29 PM
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mongoose
In order to have access to data you will most likely have to open an account somewhere and
CME will charge you for non-profesional data.
If you just want free and don't mind delayed data you can look at
Thinkorswim or Tradovate (they just had a webinar here on profile). Thinkorswim may cut you off after 2 weeks but you can always make another login. Tradovate will give you 2 weeks live data and from there it goes delayed by 15 minutes.
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Man thank you for that. I didn't know either, and i tried them both: Think or Swim i didn't like, but Tradovate is absolutelly amazing!
February 18th, 2021, 08:03 PM
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magicTurtle
What has england to do with the platform? I have tried the MT5 and god is awful, the demo didn't allow me access to anything but forex (i got it straight from their site and not a broker).
The UI is really awful xD
CFD 's are not allowed in the U.S.
Glad you liked Tradovate, I am past my trial data and just confirmed the profile charts still work with delayed data.
February 18th, 2021, 08:17 PM
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mongoose
CFD's are not allowed in the U.S.
Glad you liked Tradovate, I am past my trial data and just confirmed the profile charts still work with delayed data.
Oh god, so much to learn! Thank you
February 19th, 2021, 02:54 AM
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magicTurtle
Thanks man! I am a software engineer, but for now i just need resources to study, so I can understand the market. I don't think the programing bit is complicated (I could be wrong) but I'm pretty sure the hardest thing is to get the algorithm right, and for that i need to understand this stuff better.
That's great, I wish you luck ^^
February 20th, 2021, 04:32 PM
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Echoing the suggestion on Sierra Chart 's market profiles - they have a package with 30 minutes delayed data but if you're just interested in seeing the TPO structure then it's fine. Tradovate also has the market profile/tpo chart, but unfortunately it looks like the data is limited to two weeks back (someone please correct me if I'm wrong about this). So it depends on how you want to approach your analysis. If it's more intraday only use or a few days back of the TPO then that should be fine. But I've seen an approach that is more about the long term structure of the daily profiles, identifying the high and low interest areas. I think Trading View may also have some user generated TPO code as well?
February 20th, 2021, 05:13 PM
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geistflow
Echoing the suggestion on
Sierra Chart 's market profiles - they have a package with 30 minutes delayed data but if you're just interested in seeing the
TPO structure then it's fine. Tradovate also has the market profile/tpo chart, but unfortunately it looks like the data is limited to two weeks back (someone please correct me if I'm wrong about this). So it depends on how you want to approach your analysis. If it's more intraday only use or a few days back of the TPO then that should be fine. But I've seen an approach that is more about the long term structure of the daily profiles, identifying the high and low interest areas.
I think Trading View may also have some user generated TPO code as well?
Not in traditional sense, but if you just want POC , VAH , VAL etc, its there. There is one for volume but its very limited, there is also volume profile drawing tool, which is manual work.
July 17th, 2023, 08:35 PM
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Tradovate was one of the best platforms for TPO charts. However, they charge $60/month for this feature. This is a new charge, introduced yesterday, 16 July 2023, without any warning to existing clients. Thinkorswim I believe is cheaper but not as good. Anyone aware of a platform similar to Tradovate for TPO charts that is less cost prohibitive?
July 18th, 2023, 06:38 AM
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magicTurtle
I have been reading (by recommendation of an user on this site) Mind over Markets, I am trying to find
TPO -Market Profile chart (even if it's not real time) to study, however, I am unable to find the TPO chart on
CME website, and most platforms have instead a volume-price chart, with the actual TPO chart being a paid feature.
Do you if there is a place where i could get delayed/historial Market Profiles, without having to subscribe to a service, or if I'm out of luck and it's a subscription only service?
Thanks in advance
Hi, use Sierrachart to have tpo chart on the graphs.
It's the cheapest way to have a TPO chart.
Jim uses window blu, but there is really no need to spend 280 USD per month for that platform, Sierra is what everyone use.
Last Updated on July 18, 2023