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 cunparis 
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There you go. I am sure that there are more in the Sharky packages.

Be careful, the LR indicator, like all the X_Colors indicators, repaints. It does this for continuity of the line. I comment out the Set(1) lines so that it doesn't repaint.

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 Jeff Castille 
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Hey Jeff, I like seeing you post some CL charts and trying new stuff. You're very creative.

I have a question: Wwhat were your trades? If you took the sharky dots or the shark fin entries you'd be 100%. What were you doing?

I'll check out your charts and see how it works. Thanks for sharing.

My trades were before I optimized the chart......I wish I had it dialed before my trades.

But first time out on CL what do you expect? It's one thing to set up a chart....it's another to see it perform during a live market.


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My trades were before I optimized the chart......I wish I had it dialed before my trades.

But first time out on CL what do you expect? It's one thing to set up a chart....it's another to see it perform during a live market.

I noticed that your shark fin indicator looked different than mine. I opened the indicator panel and closed it and then it looked like yours. Very strange. So I lookd at the code and I found one repaint. I'm testing it without the repaint.

Neutral.Set(lRR[0]);
//Neutral.Set(1, lRR[1]);

EDIT: Turns out this doesn't affect the signals, it's just cosmetic

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I noticed that your shark fin indicator looked different than mine. I opened the indicator panel and closed it and then it looked like yours. Very strange. So I lookd at the code and I found one repaint. I'm testing it without the repaint.

Neutral.Set(lRR[0]);
//Neutral.Set(1, lRR[1]);

Interesting......I know that Sharky is working on improving the Sharkfin. Sharky says that all the Ninja moving average indicators have issues. Thanks for catching this one.

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Interesting......I know that Sharky is working on improving the Sharkfin. Sharky says that all the Ninja moving average indicators have issues. Thanks for catching this one.

I edited my post above, I think it's only cosmetic to connect the lines in the lower panel (the grey lines).

I'm testing out your idea for CL, it's interesting so far.

What stop & target do you use? I'm testing 20/20.

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I edited my post above, I think it's only cosmetic to connect the lines in the lower panel (the grey lines).

I'm testing out your idea for CL, it's interesting so far.

What stop & target do you use? I'm testing 20/20.

Right now I'm looking for +10 as the first target. Stop wise....I have an automatic 15 on the strategy but I may slightly adjust it (a tick or two) to correspond to an 18 range bar high/low of previous bar as a stop.

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Hey Cunparis,

Can you tell me the things I should know about CL as far as contract rollover, special time of day concerns etc?

Thanks, Jeff

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Right now I'm looking for +10 as the first target. Stop wise....I have an automatic 15 on the strategy but I may slightly adjust it (a tick or two) to correspond to an 18 range bar high/low of previous bar as a stop.

Are you trading on 30 range or just using it as anchor? Sounds like you trade on 18 range? or did I misunderstand.

For CL, the rollover isn't a set date like in the indexes. You switch when the front month volume becomes less than the 2nd month. There is a lot of leeway here cause the 2 front months will have very good volume for the days around the switch. Unless you're trading size it's not that critical.

For times, I find that I make most of my money between 8:00 - 9:30. I start at 8am because that's when I get home from work. The pit opens at 9am and often price will be a bit unreliable at that time. Same for the stock market open at 9:30. I stop trading at 11:45 because I have to get my daughter from daycare but I notice that after that it's not as interesting.

I love CL, by far my favorite instrument. Huge range and volatility make it work with just about any strategy. Sometimes the bars are 50-60 ticks long, I usually don't trade around those times cause I don't want a 60+ tick stop.

CL often leads ES so if you trade both CL & YM you'll start to pick up on that.

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Are you trading on 30 range or just using it as anchor? Sounds like you trade on 18 range? or did I misunderstand.

For CL, the rollover isn't a set date like in the indexes. You switch when the front month volume becomes less than the 2nd month. There is a lot of leeway here cause the 2 front months will have very good volume for the days around the switch. Unless you're trading size it's not that critical.

For times, I find that I make most of my money between 8:00 - 9:30. I start at 8am because that's when I get home from work. The pit opens at 9am and often price will be a bit unreliable at that time. Same for the stock market open at 9:30. I stop trading at 11:45 because I have to get my daughter from daycare but I notice that after that it's not as interesting.

I love CL, by far my favorite instrument. Huge range and volatility make it work with just about any strategy. Sometimes the bars are 50-60 ticks long, I usually don't trade around those times cause I don't want a 60+ tick stop.

CL often leads ES so if you trade both CL & YM you'll start to pick up on that.

I'm using the 30 range as the main CL chart. However...... I am also keeping an eye on the 18 range to help spot the smaller frames a-b-c pullbacks and help with stop placement etc.

So CL is a monthly contract rather than a quarterly like the indexes?

Interestingly....I've had two winning trades before the pit opened yesterday and today.

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I'm using the 30 range as the main CL chart. However...... I am also keeping an eye on the 18 range to help spot the smaller frames a-b-c pullbacks and help with stop placement etc.

So CL is a monthly contract rather than a quarterly like the indexes?

Interestingly....I've had two winning trades before the pit opened yesterday and today.

Yes it's monthly. It's one of the most used commodities.

What do you think of 5min vs. range chart? I still prefer 5m charts.

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