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 Jeff Castille 
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As usual we had a nice push into the close of CL. What I've noticed is that there is push from 11:00 AM PST to 11:30AM PST (Pit closing) All I have been doing is setting a buy or sell stop one tick above or below the previous half hour high/low....that's it.

Same thing at the open.

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Just thought of one more thing that I wanted to share. Keep in mind that all the trades shown are confirmed by multiple time frames. That is to say......if I post a 20 range bar chart.....remember I am also looking at a 10 and 30 range bar also. In addition, I always keep and eye on a minute chart. I toggle between a 5 and 30 minute. So if you get the idea that you will simply trade the break of a recent swing....make sure that your other timeframes are in agreement.

Hi Jeff, thanks for sharing your charts it's really helpful.

Can you explain how you're using the 10 & 30 range? When trading cycles I've used 3 timeframes but I found the smallest always leads and by the time the big one agrees the move is underway so then I wait for a pullback on the smaller one and then enter on the breakout of the pullback. I hope that makes sense. Maybe we could do something similar with range charts?

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Hi Jeff, thanks for sharing your charts it's really helpful.

Can you explain how you're using the 10 & 30 range? When trading cycles I've used 3 timeframes but I found the smallest always leads and by the time the big one agrees the move is underway so then I wait for a pullback on the smaller one and then enter on the breakout of the pullback. I hope that makes sense. Maybe we could do something similar with range charts?

I ended up dumping the 10 range bar on CL. My problem is that when I have a faster chart up I tend to start trading that chart. So.......I used just the 20 and 30 range this afternoon and liked it much better. To me fast charts mean NOISE......and I don't need the distraction.

As far as what I look for......just general agreement. For instance.....if I get a signal on the 20 range bar chart and the 30 has not triggered yet....that's ok as long as it's not going against the trade I'm considering. The 30 range bar keeps me from getting jerked around.

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I ended up dumping the 10 range bar on CL. My problem is that when I have a faster chart up I tend to start trading that chart. So.......I used just the 20 and 30 range this afternoon and liked it much better. To me fast charts mean NOISE......and I don't need the distraction.

As far as what I look for......just general agreement. For instance.....if I get a signal on the 20 range bar chart and the 30 has not triggered yet....that's ok as long as it's not going against the trade I'm considering. The 30 range bar keeps me from getting jerked around.

Hi Jeff, thanks for that explanation. Could you elaborate on what you mean by "noise" and how to spot it? Thanks.

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Hi Jeff, thanks for that explanation. Could you elaborate on what you mean by "noise" and how to spot it? Thanks.

I'm sure that the definition of "noise" is subjective. I know some traders that love a fast chart. I do not. Just look at the gyrations the 10 range bar would have put you through compared to the relatively calm 30 range bar.


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Same set up different market. Happens just about everyday.

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Hi Steve,

I don't use the NT Swing high/low any more. The reason mine extends beyond where yours stops is because mine is drawn manually. I find that the indicator doesn't always catch the 1-2-3 trade the way I like it so I dumped it. Plus, I find drawing the lines keeps me engaged. It's also a good way to catch an A_B_C complex pullback.

Jeff

Hi Jeff, another question - and no I am not asking these just so your thread pushed over 200 pages

Can you expand on how YOU determine swing Hi/Lo and what the 1-2-3 and A-B-C swings are.

PS: if the answer is already in this thread, just say so and I will do a better search.

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Hi Jeff, another question - and no I am not asking these just so your thread pushed over 200 pages

Can you expand on how YOU determine swing Hi/Lo and what the 1-2-3 and A-B-C swings are.

PS: if the answer is already in this thread, just say so and I will do a better search.

Hey Steve,

Yes, there have been discussions on the 1-2-3 and the A_B_C patterns on the thread. The place that I originally learned these basic patterns was with LBR Group. Linda Bradford Raschke is a brilliant market technician and I learned a lot from her. She has many articles on the web so.....I would suggest that you do a goggle search and check out her stuff. She has one paper called "Five Trading Patterns" that I really like.

LBR does not use range bars......I find that these patterns are easier to spot with range bars but......to each his own. What ever works.

I'll see if I can dig up some of the past posts regarding these patterns...stayed tuned.

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Hi Steve,

I found a post on page 182 of this thread #1816......it explains the 1-2-3 that was popularized by Trader Vic. Just put your mouse on the diagram and it shows you the opposite pattern.

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Hey Steve,

Here's what an A_B_C pattern looks like. It's what LBR called a complex pullback.

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