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Hey jdella,

Interesting chart on CL. I looks like you put a slingshot over the 50 EMA. Can you confirm exactly what we're looking at.

Thanks, Jeff

Hey Cunparis.... no... I don't think I'm ready to take everything off my chart just yet. Just want to stay focused on price. Just like the admonition they give to baseball players..."keep your eye on the ball." Of course for traders that would be the price. Anything that distracts me from that has to go!

I put the volume graph on a chart yesterday..... also watched the "skyscrapers" video. I think it has some merit. I'm looking forward to your volume thread !


Jeff,

The chart is as you have said. the slingshot is with the 20/50 HMA and the EMA colors are a little adjusted from your settings. they are 15/75 with a 50 period. I've tweeked it a bit from the 30/60 50 period to get the colors to change a little more frquently than the 30/60 but no so much so that it flips back and forth. I had noticed that Cunparis was toying with the 20/70, so that gave me the idea to tweek a little further.
The volume graph is the default settings, which I got from the dowloads section.

Jeff

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Can you post your template

Milford,

See post #158.

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Here are my trades this morning:

First trade, had I used +4/+8 for targets I could have gotten out with a profit. I'm going to try that from now on. As it is I didn't get my 8 tick target and ended up with 4 tick loss.

Second trade, this was a nice one, broke a support line on the 3rd time. Volume was up. Got 2 pts.

3rd trade, jumped the gun on trendline break. -0.5 pts. I don't mind losing on this one, I'm very happy I cut my losses very short!

4th Entered on swing break but wasn't patient and got out breakeven.

5th trade went short mostly due to my other tick charts but also hull turned down, the upside breakout didn't get far, and eco turned red. I figured price would at least make it to the bottom trendline which it did. I got out cause it made a double bottom (a smalll one). 5 ticks.

Total = $41. Hey it's not enough to make me rich but.. well wait a minute.. 100 contracts that's $4100! Just kidding. I'm happy that I cut losses short. I need to work on being more selective for my entries and possibly not letting a positive trade go negative.

If you have any comments I'd love to hear them. Thanks for looking.

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What range do you think people use mostly when trading TF or ZN?

SKid

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ES trades

Hey Cunparis,

I created an "All you Need" template with more radical colors for the sake of a good visual and I really only see two good ES trades this morning using a 4 range bar chart. This has been a nasty choppy day ! There was a nice LBR first cross @ 10:39 EST on your chart. I guess that the 50 EMA on your chart is different than mine because of the tweak that you did on the angle? I'm assuming so.

I've been following the thread on volume and have listened to the video and downloaded the book. What I wondering ..... about the better volume indicator. You've said that the better volume beta on the ninja forum is not good but..... have you seen the other better volume on the ninja forum that says it's a direct port from tradestation? Perhaps the one that's ported from tradestation is ok??? Let me know what you think.

Hey Skid,

I'm not sure what the ZN/TF traders look at. Some experimentation is probably in order.

Jeff

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Hey Jeff. I like the thread you got started here. I haven't read it for a few days so I'm a bit behind but between this thread and some other things that Mike posted the other week I got motivated to focus on price action rather then leaning on a "crutch." I stumbled on this thread over at forex factory (The System II (Yes with irony) @ Forex Factory) that seemed very relevant and I have been applying it with some success. Though you might be interested.

Good trading!

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Hey Blz17,

Thanks....I'll check it out.

Jeff

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Hey Cunparis,
I created an "All you Need" template with more radical colors for the sake of a good visual and I really only see two good ES trades this morning using a 4 range bar chart. This has been a nasty choppy day ! There was a nice LBR first cross @ 10:39 EST on your chart. I guess that the 50 EMA on your chart is different than mine because of the tweak that you did on the angle? I'm assuming so.

I've been following the thread on volume and have listened to the video and downloaded the book. What I wondering ..... about the better volume indicator. You've said that the better volume beta on the ninja forum is not good but..... have you seen the other better volume on the ninja forum that says it's a direct port from tradestation? Perhaps the one that's ported from tradestation is ok??? Let me know what you think.

Your two good trades are the first two I took. After that it was in a congestion zone. But at the time I'm not sure we could tell it was congestion. My third trade was on a trendline break of a retractment in a downtrend.

Do you think it's safer to only enter when price is above/below the most recent swing high? Could this be a filter to get higher probability trades (but less of them)? I've been wondering about that. If it's above/below the last swing high then there is no immediate support or resistance from the current day to stop it.

For the better volume, I tried both the "beta" and the one claiming to be a direct port. It's not. I did a direct port, literally line by line. But I had problem getting uptick & downtick information. Now I see Barry has used a strategy so that's probably the solution. In looking over gary's chart which was done with the official NT version (I think), it's not the same as mine. I'm not yet sure if it's comparable or not. I'm hoping someone can write a good one for NT.

PS: All I did was change the angles to 20/70 in the parameters. I didn't modify the code or anything, so you can try 20/70. It seems to color the EMA just as price is breaking above/below a swing pivot level. I'm not sure the coloring is really useful on the ES 4 range. I'm not sure I couldn't do just as well having it only blue/red.

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Hey Jeff. I like the thread you got started here. I haven't read it for a few days so I'm a bit behind but between this thread and some other things that Mike posted the other week I got motivated to focus on price action rather then leaning on a "crutch." I stumbled on this thread over at forex factory (The System II (Yes with irony) @ Forex Factory) that seemed very relevant and I have been applying it with some success. Though you might be interested.

Thanks for the link, I'm going to check it out. I'm starting to believe that one can be successful with just about any system if one has the patience and discipline to practice over and over until they're profitable.

I read an article from LBR (I'm on an LBR kick since Jeff told me about 1st cross) and she said if you can make it 2-3 years without giving up or going broke then you'll probably make it. I'm coming up on 2 years almost full time now and have just recently become profitable. She knew what she was talking about.

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Hey Jeff. I like the thread you got started here. I haven't read it for a few days so I'm a bit behind but between this thread and some other things that Mike posted the other week I got motivated to focus on price action rather then leaning on a "crutch." I stumbled on this thread over at forex factory (The System II (Yes with irony) @ Forex Factory) that seemed very relevant and I have been applying it with some success. Though you might be interested.

I'm reading that thread, it's great. Very similar to what we're doing here, but without any indicators. That's pretty cool.

From what I've read so far it seems like my observation about it being better to take trades without immediate overhead S&R is better. I'm still reading though.

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