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yroyal View Post
My Rules In Finer Detail :

1. I am a day trader. Dont carry positions overnight.

2. By Slower charts I mean those settings which capture the dominant trend or swings of the day.

3. Enter Long when a Blue bar appears after a down move. Entry ABOVE the high of the first blue bar.

4. Exit Long when a Red bar appears.

5. Enter Short when a Red bar appears after an up move. Entry BELOW the low of the first red bar.

6. Exit Short when a Blue bar appears.

7. Dont enter any new position in the last 30 minutes of the day, but continue open positions.


I have shown past six days action. 15 trades / 354 points profit

Very good!

How many winners/losers and what was the average win/loss?

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It happens rarely. Most of the cases when it happens, the subsequent bar doesnt cross the high/low of the previous bar. We take positions only above the high or below the low. So the signal is nullified.

There is actually one of those trades on your 6 day chart whereby a blue bar appeared and after a downtrend and the next bar traded above it for a few ticks only to turn yellow and them some red bars. In these instances, do you wait for a red (or blue) to close the position or something else?

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I want to point out that, regardless how nice Jeff's AYN setworks work in a trend, you will still get hammered in a chop if you don't use something to help you to identify and avoid it, other indicators notwithstanding.

I find StepMA and Sharkband most helpful in this regard.

Zoe,

Consider the "Swing (High/Low)" indy, and set the strength to 3, Swing High/Swing Low plots to "Dash/Hash". This will give you the same settings as Sharkband, and also makes your chart lighter.

Lolu

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Oh yeah????


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I want to point out that, regardless how nice Jeff's AYN setworks work in a trend, you will still get hammered in a chop if you don't use something to help you to identify and avoid it, other indicators notwithstanding.

I find StepMA and Sharkband most helpful in this regard.

I would like to point out that your statement is nonsense.

I would also ask that if you insist on making such statements that you show something to back it up.

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Lolu..give me a break

Lolu....do not be afraid of confrontation.........this is where you will learn the most.

If you cannot vigorously and intelligently defend your point of view.....it is worthless.

It's interesting that you chose to mention all the "negative words" and failed to see what the instigation was.......this is telling.

I call it like I see it. When I see nonsense.....I call it .....NONSENSE.

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I will only say one thing about Viper. A member here asked me about them so I took 30 minutes to search google and find some first-hand experiences of people who tried Viper. What they said was that at the end of the day Viper will pick the best tick/range setting for that day and then highlight how well it worked in a video later on. Thus people watching the video get excited thinking it works when in reality no one can know ahead of time what range setting works best for a given day!

Now if someone says it works for them then that's great I'm happy for them. If someone is trying to decide whether to sign up, I just say search mypivots.com for viper and read the first hand experiences and then make your decision. To each his own.


Hi Cunparis

Without getting into the free here vs Viper that they are curve fitting to find the best range chart and then making the video's after the fact simply isn't true.

1. I am in their room many mornings, and they use the same settings fairly universally

2. I've been using the same settings on my Viper range charts for a long time, don't change them and I get the same trades they do. It's a system that seems to do best in the first part of the day, and they shut down the room usually by 10:30 - 11:00 EST.

Candidly, inspite of all the free stuff here, which I play a lot with, I find Viper very useful, and still worth the bucks to me.

Pete

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I would like to point out that your statement is nonsense.

I would also ask that if you insist on making such statements that you show something to back it up.

Jeff, if you think that taking trades in a chop is a good thing to do, that's fine. You are entitled to your opinion. I didn't mean to signal you out in particular and I'm sorry if I inadvertently hurt your feelings. There was no premeditated "instigation" on my part. To the contrary, I respect the work you do here, but I stand by my statement and it applies to all traders. The chop is an account killer and should be avoided at all costs.

I suppose Sharky and everyone else who spent a lot of time and effort to develop indicators to not only recognize chop, but also avoid trading in it don't know what their doing. However, I'm happy to be in such company.

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Hi Cunparis

Without getting into the free here vs Viper that they are curve fitting to find the best range chart and then making the video's after the fact simply isn't true.

1. I am in their room many mornings, and they use the same settings fairly universally

2. I've been using the same settings on my Viper range charts for a long time, don't change them and I get the same trades they do. It's a system that seems to do best in the first part of the day, and they shut down the room usually by 10:30 - 11:00 EST.

Candidly, inspite of all the free stuff here, which I play a lot with, I find Viper very useful, and still worth the bucks to me.

Pete

Pete, good for you!

You don't need to defend yourself. Trading is a personal matter amd two people who learn the exact same method from the same instructor can have very different results.

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lolu View Post
Zoe,

Consider the "Swing (High/Low)" indy, and set the strength to 3, Swing High/Swing Low plots to "Dash/Hash". This will give you the same settings as Sharkband, and also makes your chart lighter.

Lolu

Lolu, thanks for turning me on to that.

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My Rules In Finer Detail :

1. I am a day trader. Dont carry positions overnight.

2. By Slower charts I mean those settings which capture the dominant trend or swings of the day.

3. Enter Long when a Blue bar appears after a down move. Entry ABOVE the high of the first blue bar.

4. Exit Long when a Red bar appears.

5. Enter Short when a Red bar appears after an up move. Entry BELOW the low of the first red bar.

6. Exit Short when a Blue bar appears.

7. Dont enter any new position in the last 30 minutes of the day, but continue open positions.


I have shown past six days action. 15 trades / 354 points profit

Hi yroyal
Thank your for your post #1589
Is MedianRanko for real time only?
When I use it on histrical data the chart show nothing?

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