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Another way to trade...to all those angry holy grail seekers..

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To cut a very long story short, I developed my own 2 indicators - the first tells me whether I should be long or short, my entry prices and stop. The 2nd tells me the "power" of the move in the selected direction. In order to be universal for any market, I incorporated adaptability into both indicators so they adapt to any chart they are placed on - there is no tweaking any parameters - every market and time/price frame utilizes the exact same indicator parameters.

Attached are a few charts from Friday's session. I really do not want this discussion to get into what the indicators are and questions related to the indicators as they are proprietary and I cannot give them up. I really just want to show to all those who insult and ridicule, that I have a defined way of trading and I have mastered my system. I have included charts from some of my favourite markets that I enjoy trading. I have used the same time frame for all charts.

In conclusion, if you are a failing or non consistent trader, you need to know that there is a way to trade that could find you consistency and profitability. This is my way which I have mastered. You need to find your way. Don't always doubt and ridicule those that try and help. Although I will try and answer questions if they arise, please be aware that it might not be immediately.





I'm not sure how this is helpful. It comes across as rubbing salt into the wounds of other traders - "I've discovered something that works, but I won't share it with you because you haven't gone through 15 years of pain yet".

"You need to find your way."

Looking at your charts, I think I can duplicate most of your stuff on Sierra - it's pretty obvious if you know which indicators work and which don't.

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I'm not sure how this is helpful. It comes across as rubbing salt into the wounds of other traders - "I've discovered something that works, but I won't share it with you because you haven't gone through 15 years of pain yet".

"You need to find your way."

Looking at your charts, I think I can duplicate most of your stuff on Sierra - it's pretty obvious if you know which indicators work and which don't.

Hi there

I didn't start this thread to hand a methodology/system to anyone on a silver platter. All I wanted to do was show that there are many ways to trade and each individual needs to find a means that suits their individual personalities. If you find that this way suits your personality and you can emulate what I've done in Sierra charts, I welcome you to do it and see if it suits your personality in the live market.

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I’m really not too concerned what you choose to believe or not. My intention wasn’t to make anyone believers, I’m simply giving some ideas. If you cannot see how my strategy makes money then you possibly have not read and understood the post properly.

With all the tech we have it is not hard to look back at the past performance of a system. Most platforms have something built in now. The only reason not to share such information is because you're hiding something.

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This is a really lame excuse. With all the tech we have it is not hard to look back at the past performance of a system. Most platforms have something built in now. The only reason not to share such information is because you're hiding something.

Hi @TWDsje, things are getting a little too heated here. It is fine to disagree with another, or to be skeptical, or to be challenging, but please stay within the limits of civility that are required by the futures.io rules, which prohibit rudeness toward other members.

If you express your reservations or concerns appropriately, there will be no problem, but please respect the standards of our community.

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Hi @TWDsje, things are getting a little too heated here. It is fine to disagree with another, or to be skeptical, or to be challenging, but please stay within the limits of civility that are required by the futures.io rules, which prohibit rudeness toward other members.

If you express your reservations or concerns appropriately, there will be no problem, but please respect the standards of our community.

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Exactly. We all in the same boat together on a one way mission to hell hehe I have mad respect to anyone that is trading full time and making money doesnt matter if hes using algos to trade or tea leaves - i'm all ears. Now if you don't believe thats entirely your problem but at the same time being skeptical is the way to go as in life as in trading. But as you said theres a fine line, and its best just to discuss ideas and try to learn something new every day. Best regards to the OP as well and continue to share your experience.

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Hi @TWDsje, things are getting a little too heated here. It is fine to disagree with another, or to be skeptical, or to be challenging, but please stay within the limits of civility that are required by the futures.io rules, which prohibit rudeness toward other members.

If you express your reservations or concerns appropriately, there will be no problem, but please respect the standards of our community.

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I agree bobwest... to a point.

If i get banned at this point... oh well. I've tried to be civil and even apologies to TraderDoc007. He seems to be the common thread here. I agree to being civil but if your going to let this guy just come in and ruffles everyones feathers without ever contributing to the community I might as well be on a penny stock forum.

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Exactly. We all in the same boat together on a one way mission to hell hehe I have mad respect to anyone that is trading full time and making money doesnt matter if hes using algos to trade or tea leaves - i'm all ears. Now if you don't believe thats entirely your problem but at the same time being skeptical is the way to go as in life as in trading. But as you said theres a fine line, and its best just to discuss ideas and try to learn something new every day. Best regards to the OP as well and continue to share your experience.

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The thing is hes not helping anyone or saying anything productive. TWDsje has some points but people are jumping all over him/her.

Whats the problem? TWDsje asked nice and as usual TraderDoc007 gave his snap back response.

I AM here to help people believe it or not!

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Guys,

Please take this down a notch.
TraderDoc007 was nice enough to take the time and put together his post. To me it seems like someone who is trying to lift up the spirits of many people who are on their own quest, and show that it is attainable.
He seems genuine, and is not trying to sell you a product or profit off you in anyway. He has nothing to gain by leading you astray. He has his system that works for him, as do many others, and remember- knowing the system does not mean knowing how to succeed in our game. The system is one part, the man or woman behind it is the biggest part.
It is nice to see someone encouraging us to keep at it, as TraderDoc007 has here.

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With all the tech we have it is not hard to look back at the past performance of a system. Most platforms have something built in now. The only reason not to share such information is because you're hiding something.

I have a GUI that is written in the form of an indicator that trades the right hand side of the chart. When I originally developed the concept(which was in Tradestation years ago), I used a strategy to test the validity of the concept. The concept worked exactly the way I wanted to and it was then turned into an App, using OOEL that traded the right hand side of the chart. When forced to leave Tradestation, I had to find something that replaced my app. That is when I had a GUI developed. I do all my trading on the right hand side of the chart, not on backtested data. It is not a simple switch it on and let it trade all day - It places all the orders at the same places every time - I decide whether to leave them where they are or change them. Support and resistance, market mode etc are what I determine to tell me where to adjust my orders. So I’m not too sure what you mean when you say I’m hiding something?

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I agree bobwest... to a point.

If i get banned at this point... oh well. I've tried to be civil and even apologies to TraderDoc007. He seems to be the common thread here. I agree to being civil but if your going to let this guy just come in and ruffles everyones feathers without ever contributing to the community I might as well be on a penny stock forum.

Just my thoughts.

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Could you possibly explain your statements “he seems to be the common thread here” and “without ever contributing to the community”. I did actually start this thread and as expected, the angry holy grailers are taking the very expected potshots when they don’t get some system handed to them on a silver platter or they don’t like what I have to say. Why am I ruffling anyone’s feathers? Whenever I truthfully respond to any posts, I’m either ‘ruffling someone’s feathers” or have to defend simple statements I’ve made.

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