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crude is fast but if u know its behave u can make very good money best way to trade in crude is scalping my stop loss is 20 tick and profit is 10-20 tick u can see here my today trades i made $1000 with one lot total trades 14 account size is 3500

The target at 10:30 is not displayed correctly.

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jagui View Post
The target at 10:30 is not displayed correctly.

Is it not a failed trade where he got some slippage from his intended target ?

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Trading CL for 2:1 risk/reward or 1:1 will guarantee failure over the long run.

I don't see ES as more difficult. I trade CL primarily but still view ES as one of the best instruments out there. Gap plays, opening ranges, and TICK plays make ES one of the most technically sound products available to trade. It should be a staple of every futures' traders portfolio.

I agree with Snoop. That's probably why so many persons trade the ES as it responds well to technical analysis specially to Market Profile. The ES reacts well to Ledges, singles, NPOC almost all of the levels as defined in Market Profile. I would say the ES would favor a fading trader more than the CL but again i have not watched CL long enough and under different conditions to assert it with 100% certainty (i am in the process to compile my observations).

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nightangel03 View Post
Hello,
I currently trade the ES mini and was thinking of maybe trading another symbol instead. Since there are times when the ES takes forever to setup a trade. I wanted to know if crude oil was easier then ES and faster?


Still loving the TF. Gotta love $10/tick/$100 a point!

After all, it's what you learn AFTER you know it all, that counts!
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Good trades, but how is that on 10.30 bar u have target filled out of the bar?

LOL its realy very funny but i use 2300 vol chart .there is one tip for cl is that always look one month advance contect like now i am trading 10-10 but i watch also 11-10


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This is what trading the ES....

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Easier, no. Faster, yes.

Guess it depends on your personality and trading style, personally I prefer CL because price action is usually smoother than ES which can go choppy all day with no real direction.

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