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Would you share your Holy Grail?

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 joe s 
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Lots of info to go through thanks

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Interesting diatribe but is this an attempt to share your holy grail or are you saying you won't or neither or both ?


It's not a diatribe; it's a mission statement for trading. I'm not attacking anyone, just pointing out some very salient facts. Everyone gets what they want out of the markets, including those who choose to be out of the markets, those who blame the markets for their lack of profitability, and those who think that achieving lasting and meaningful success in any discipline is easy. In other words, you get out of it, what you put into it!

So, if you and @SunTrader were to suspend your collective cynicism for a moment, and read the last paragraph, you might be able to decipher the post's meaning and intent.

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Heres my idea of the holy grail to make big bucks. I safely disclose it because I dont think any of you have the b...s to try.
Based on highly successful traders that spring to mind
Livermore sold the market after the San Fransisco earthquake
Druckenmiller sold the British pound
Paulson subprime mortage
Method
Fundamental info used..... no TA
No day trading picking up pennies in front of the steam roller
Bet the farm. No 1% of your capital
All are shorts
And 90% LUCK
Now for the deluge
bobc

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The idea is that even if given a holy grail these are the factors that come into play for anyone’s system to be of any use to you. This is very much relevant to the conversation as far as I understand it. This is a holy grail, but these are all the factors that make decipherable. That’s how I understand it and that’s why I want to read it over again.

Forgive if I am misunderstanding the question. My thinking was that the question is "Would you share your Holy Grail ?"
And the answer would be along the lines of
"Yes, I would and here's why"
"No I wouldn't and here's why"
And even possibly
"Depends, and here's why"

Certainly not " if given a holy grail these are the factors that come into play..."

If I am incorrect in assessing the question then of course I am willing to be corrected as my interest is in having a conversation and not an argument.

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Forgive if I am misunderstanding the question. My thinking was that the question is "Would you share your Holy Grail ?"
And the answer would be along the lines of
"Yes, I would and here's why"
"No I wouldn't and here's why"
And even possibly
"Depends, and here's why"

Certainly not " if given a holy grail these are the factors that come into play..."

If I am incorrect in assessing the question then of course I am willing to be corrected as my interest is in having a conversation and not an argument.

I completely agree with you. I was coming from the point of view that a holy grail is only as good as the discipline that is accorded it, as in if you have not rules and discipline governing your actions a holy grail would be of no use. I think it’s because I struggle with that so I think I’m a bit hung up on that. But you are absolutely right. I am off topic later.

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bobc View Post
Heres my idea of the holy grail to make big bucks. I safely disclose it because I dont think any of you have the b...s to try.
Based on highly successful traders that spring to mind
Livermore sold the market after the San Fransisco earthquake
Druckenmiller sold the British pound
Paulson subprime mortage
Method
Fundamental info used..... no TA
No day trading picking up pennies in front of the steam roller
Bet the farm. No 1% of your capital
All are shorts
And 90% LUCK
Now for the deluge
bobc


you are familiar with the concept of survivorship bias, aren't you?

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you are familiar with the concept of survivorship bias, aren't you?

I swear that this basic concept should be required understanding by every trader. It is practically rule #1!

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Heres my idea of the holy grail to make big bucks. I safely disclose it because I dont think any of you have the b...s to try.
Based on highly successful traders that spring to mind
Livermore sold the market after the San Fransisco earthquake
Druckenmiller sold the British pound
Paulson subprime mortage
Method
Fundamental info used..... no TA
No day trading picking up pennies in front of the steam roller
Bet the farm. No 1% of your capital
All are shorts
And 90% LUCK
Now for the deluge
bobc

It's also the best way to bet in Vegas. So it does have some merit and clearly full back-tested given the data you have shown

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Big Mike View Post
I swear that this basic concept should be required understanding by every trader. It is practically rule #1!

Mike

I immediately thought of "John, the High-Yield Trader" from "Fooled by Randomness".

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Heres my idea of the holy grail to make big bucks. I safely disclose it because I dont think any of you have the b...s to try.
Based on highly successful traders that spring to mind
Livermore sold the market after the San Fransisco earthquake
Druckenmiller sold the British pound
Paulson subprime mortage
Method
Fundamental info used..... no TA
No day trading picking up pennies in front of the steam roller
Bet the farm. No 1% of your capital
All are shorts
And 90% LUCK
Now for the deluge
bobc

Disclose it? An idea of. Nice try.

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