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Would you share your Holy Grail?

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You do realize you are "just one of those gurus who couldn’t actually trade themselves out of a paper bag if they had to" as long as you don't post any proof, right?

The fact that you claim to have created a holy grail that isn't even complex coding and is beating the biggest geniuses on the planet spending millions and millions a year to just keep their algorithms running is just to funny.

You might think that i am intimidated by those guy's that i know personally, but you are doing nothing different: "telling me what is possible". The only difference is is that there is plenty of information available for everyone to read on the biggest financial institutions of the world and their running costs, employees, returns, ... Plenty of information about how things are done in the industry. There is nothing about you anywhere and yet you are the one who beat them all.

Yeah right.


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That is what I noticed right away as well.

You have your opinion. They have theirs. Only you are not trying to impose yours on someone else - who seems to have a superiority complex of some sort.

Glad you noticed that - it was intentional. I don’t have an opinion, I know from fact! I’m not trying to be anything at all - I’m trying to get anyone who wants to turn the corner to success to stop being intimidated by every thing they read and hear.

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Let me know which markets you want proof in!

All of them of course 😊.

Lets start with equities.

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You know what I notice? That it's always non-Elite members that cause the most trouble. Ten years and 100k members later, I still know of no good reason for someone to be an active member here for YEARS, consider themselves a trader, and make the decision to purposely NOT support the community they spend time in.

But, I do know that, unfortunately, this exact scenario has occurred in the past when the users were banned with prior accounts.
@bobwest can say something eloquent and with patience, whereas I'm just upset. I've been working on the site in all my spare time only to babysit people that don't value our community?



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All of them of course 😊.

Lets start with equities.

Sorry only trade futures. I don’t think my data provider Rithmic does equities. But if they do, no problem I’ll do any equity you choose.

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Keyword regarding #1 above (with which I wholeheartedly agree) is identifying market context - I've yet to find indicators or strategies (that are publicly available) that account for that and are adaptable to a decent enough degree to trust with automation.

To me THAT'S always been the "holy grail", and no, I've never had expectations that I'd find it somewhere but would have to build it myself (it's taken me a LONG time but getting very close).

Fusion that’s what I’m trying to illustrate, you will need to build it yourself. The key word is adaptive indicators that adapt to any market conditions. The algorithm/methodology part of any system needs to adapt to current conditions as markets change their character all the time. Gone are the days when one rigid system could be traded on all markets. You need a system that adapts to any type of market.

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That didn't take long. Next, queue up the post on ET. This guy really likes to ignore all the evidence right in front him, it's so much easier to simply believe what you want to believe. Never going to be a good trader like that.

The ban originally was only three months. Permanent now.

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You know what I notice? That it's always non-Elite members that cause the most trouble. Ten years and 100k members later, I still know of no good reason for someone to be an active member here for YEARS, consider themselves a trader, and make the decision to purposely NOT support the community they spend time in.

But, I do know that, unfortunately, this exact scenario has occurred in the past when the users were banned with prior accounts.
@bobwest can say something eloquent and with patience, whereas I'm just upset. I've been working on the site in all my spare time only to babysit people that don't value our community?



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If by "Holy Grail' we mean, what did it take to become a consistent trader?

1. Patience, I learned to wait until I really liked a setup instead of trying to trade every squiggle
2. Trade smaller, taking emotions and bias out of the mix. Yes I theoretically make less money on paper but in rreality I keep more. I have tried to upsize over and over and it doesn't work well for me
3. Err on the side of taking profits often rather than waiting all the way until a target gets hit
4. Scale out. See above
5. Keep your setups simple and repeat them over and over. Trading becomes boring when you get good at it, imo, but I still like it

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If by "Holy Grail' we mean, what did it take to become a consistent trader?

1. Patience, I learned to wait until I really liked a setup instead of trying to trade every squiggle
2. Trade smaller, taking emotions and bias out of the mix. Yes I theoretically make less money on paper but in rreality I keep more. I have tried to upsize over and over and it doesn't work well for me
3. Err on the side of taking profits often rather than waiting all the way until a target gets hit
4. Scale out. See above
5. Keep your setups simple and repeat them over and over. Trading becomes boring when you get good at it, imo, but I still like it

I think this is a much better definition of Holy Grail. We know that there are consistently profitable traders from academic studies. We also know that trend following, momentum, arbitrage, etc can all produce +ve expected value signals from academic studies. There are lots of research papers (The Journal of Portfolio Management, Financial Analysts Journal, The Journal of Finance and The Journal of Financial Economics) with evidence supporting many methodologies for producing an edge.
The question is how does any of us use this information to become consistently profitable.
I still think some people are fixated with this idea of a money machine that you can just turn on that makes money for you and you can then go off and do something else.
This is not possible.
Increasing your size is also part of the quest. If you want to increase your size then you need to change something in you.
There is this theory that you have a threshold over which you start to get anxious(for want of a better word).
Increasing your size can put you over your threshold. If you want to trade bigger size you need to increase your threshold.
Just like going to the gym increases your physical fitness/flexibility, meditation increases your threshold.
In other words you can take more stress without feeling anxious.
Of course increasing your threshold is not just good for your trading.
I have used broad concepts to explain the theory.
For those who find this suggestion useful https://www.amazon.co.uk/Thresholds-Mind-Bill-Harris/dp/0972178015
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5. Keep your setups simple and repeat them over and over. Trading becomes boring when you get good at it, imo, but I still like it

@Japhro, you are not the first person I've seen mention trading becoming boring once they gained some level of success. Could you explain why this is from your perspective? Thanks!

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