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..**The flight will be in the cargo hold of a C-130 military transport aircraft, which is noisy and cold/hot depending on outside conditions.**The route is from Quito to Panama then on to Norfolk, Virginia.* The plane will overnight in Panama and passengers will likely not be able to disembark during that time.* Passengers will also not have access to food or water, so will need to take enough of both for the entire flight.* The flight will proceed to Norfolk on Monday, March 30.[/url]).

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Ohhh... sounds like THE crash course for welcomed new soldiers in the war against the not visible enemy in the USA.

News from Switzerland: Government plans and foresees the lockdown until August this year. Not as a worst case but a reality driven scenario.

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Would we stand by and accept that after someone bombed us, we send soldiers to the front line without weapons?

Sending US soldiers to the front line without appropriate tools happened already. I read quite a few articles about it at the time, see below for an example

https://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/30/world/middleeast/along-with-prayers-families-send-armor.html


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I'm not sure this spraying is anything other than "comfort food".

In information security lingo they call it ' security theater'

Scanning people at the airports or checkpoints with infrared thermomethers is certainly security theather given it's next to useless.

Do you know what's in the spray?

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I do not see much discussion on this thread regarding the origin of all this Chinese virus mess. Why? As far as I am concerned also this one is a very important aspect to clarify, especially when I see articles like this one:
https://www.zerohedge.com/health/more-evidence-china-lying-number-urns-more-double-reported-coronavirus-deaths?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+zerohedge%2Ffeed+%28zero+hedge+-+on+a+long+enough+timeline%2C+the+survival+rate+for+everyone+drops+to+zero%29
I hope that recent history, regarding other human tragedies, has already made clear enough that when this kind of tragedies happen, denial of responsibilities is neither fair for those who suffer the consequences, nor dignitous for those who cause the offense.
I want to know, asap, when, how and why all this has started. No more lies admitted.

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I do not see much discussion on this thread regarding the origin of all this Chinese virus mess. Why? As far as I am concerned also this one is a very important aspect to clarify, especially when I see articles like this one:
https://www.zerohedge.com/health/more-evidence-china-lying-number-urns-more-double-reported-coronavirus-deaths?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+zerohedge%2Ffeed+%28zero+hedge+-+on+a+long+enough+timeline%2C+the+survival+rate+for+everyone+drops+to+zero%29
I hope that recent history, regarding other human tragedies, has already made clear enough that when this kind of tragedies happen, denial of responsibilities is neither fair for those who suffer the consequences, nor dignitous for those who cause the offense.
I want to know, asap, when, how and why all this has started. No more lies admitted.

Check serious information medias, not a libertarian/far-right blog like zerohedge well known for its conspiracy theories.
Finding the source of a virus can take years (see HIV/AIDS).

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I found these articles useful, both as information and as emotional reassurance. They address the simple questions of how to deal with packages or store purchases and what to do in the house.

I hope they help. My takeaway is to feel less paranoia. I know that just raising the issues may cause some people to feel alarm, which I would not want, but I think the message is basically that the actual level of risk is low, and there are simple things that can be done to reduce risk further, and of course to wash your hands often and to maintain social distance in the first place.

Packages and store materials: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/03/26/dont-panic-about-shopping-getting-delivery-or-accepting-packages/

Inside the house: https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/home/clean-disinfect-surfaces-coronavirus/2020/03/26/d2c764f0-6f69-11ea-b148-e4ce3fbd85b5_story.html

To be honest, I haven't changed anything all that much, but these did let me relax a bit about what I was doing, which is valuable too.

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Check serious information medias, not a libertarian/far-right blog like zerohedge well known for its conspiracy theories.
Finding the source of a virus can take years (see HIV/AIDS).

While I can understand you do not like to have some media, you do not wish being cited in this forum, I think that under current circumstances we should all forget on whether the source of a piece of news is politically labeled as red or blue. What is important and useful is to know the truth. Please tell me which are the “serious media” we should listen to. CNN? Which so far has been telling us that in China there are no more deaths than just a few thousands? A couple of days ago they even said there were no more infections in China. Why we should accept this Denial?

If these people had told us earlier on the real threat, now we all would be facing a smaller or perhaps a contained tragedy. Why didn't these peoples say anything in time? why did they hide the truth? This is the problem, not zerohedge!
So when did all this start? How did this virus develop? Why has it developed and its spread has been hidden until the entire planet has got infected? Why, right now, here in Italy every night in a mid size city in the north we have a long caravan of military trucks going out of town for sending dozens of deaths to crematories in other cities with some spare capacity?
If you say we do not want to discuss this here, fine! Let's not do it.
But at least let me throw a stone on the water to remember we should if not talk at least think about these missing answers, possibly without blaming me for citing zerohedge on one hand and on the other hand without expressing any comment of yours about the actual information contained in the article.


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Ohhh... sounds like THE crash course for welcomed new soldiers in the war against the not visible enemy in the USA.

News from Switzerland: Government plans and foresees the lockdown until August this year. Not as a worst case but a reality driven scenario.

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Same here, there is news that we might have to put this lock-down up for approximately 6 months.

Problems are happening due to people panic fleeing their homes in cities. There is also panic in actual confirmed patients who are afraid of on coming social stigma and also trying to avoid authorities if they can. At least in 2 different places patients ran away from quarantine hospitals here and were later caught by police. Sad and ironic thing is that otherwise no one would've actually known that they had corona, now majority of country knows as their names flashed in news and will do in future as well.

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I do not see much discussion on this thread regarding the origin of all this Chinese virus mess. Why? As far as I am concerned also this one is a very important aspect to clarify, especially when I see articles like this one:
https://www.zerohedge.com/health/more-evidence-china-lying-number-urns-more-double-reported-coronavirus-deaths?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+zerohedge%2Ffeed+%28zero+hedge+-+on+a+long+enough+timeline%2C+the+survival+rate+for+everyone+drops+to+zero%29
I hope that recent history, regarding other human tragedies, has already made clear enough that when this kind of tragedies happen, denial of responsibilities is neither fair for those who suffer the consequences, nor dignitous for those who cause the offense.
I want to know, asap, when, how and why all this has started. No more lies admitted.

The Sars virus was stolen by Chinese operatives working at a lab in Winnipeg and shipped (illegally) to Wuhan biolab. Bats normally are immune to the Sars virus - they can carry it but don't die from it. A stupid nutbar Chinese doctor did genetic splicing to modify the virus to make it more lethal and be able to kill bats. It got out from the biolab in Wuhan. (which is only 300m form the wet market).

That's your where and how.

Why? Why make a highly transmittable lethal virus in a level 4 (the highest level) biohazard lab?
Why not ask the CCP who harvest organs from prisoners while alive and sells them?
Why not ask evil why it is evil?

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Dr. Matt McCarthy - Assistant Professor of Medicine at Weill Cornell,staff physician at New York-Presbyterian Hospital, and author of Superbugs: The Race to Stop an Epidemic- claims that the CDC is about to do a 180 degree change, and to recommend that everyone wear masks.

If true, such a change would be very helpful. Specifically, numerous studies show that "facemasks play a pivotal role in the prevention and control of infectious respiratory disease transmission".

Indeed, a study last year by scientists at the Departments of Chemical & Biomolecular Engineering, University of Maryland, and the FDA's Division of Applied Mechanics, showed that - if 80% of a population wears masks - it will stop a flu epidemic (it "essentially eliminated the influenza outbreak"). The typical flu virus is between 80 and 120 nanometers in diameter. The Wuhan Coronavirus is 120 nanometers.

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Last news from head of virology at best hospital in Italy (imo)
you can translate with google:
Coronavirus. Burioni: "Numeri meno negativi, primi frutti misure. Buone notizie da settore farmaci" - Rai News

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