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^There is an interview with that person in the news. Not sure if that is posted here, so here it is:



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the real reason for lockdowns and social distancing is the feardemic.
At first the talk was "flattened the curve" to avoid a rush of cases at the hospitals.
It was not about preventing infections just flattening the curve.

When they found that deaths were no more than a regular flu (Canada 8k vs 8k) the
anti was upped. We didn't close work places and do social distancing (not medical studies for this prior to its implementation) .

CWPASD= close work places and social distancing

in 2019 no CWPASD
in 2018 no CWPASD
in 2017 no CWPASD
in 2016 no CWPASD
in 2015 no CWPASD
in 2014 no CWPASD
in 2013 no CWPASD
in 2012 no CWPASD
in 2011 no CWPASD
etc...

The damaging economic effects are not from the wuhan flu but from the govts response, CWPASD.

The feardemic must continue so now the war cry is
"prevent infections"
and
"vaccine, vaccine, vaccine"

There is a lot of stupidity going on.
The flu vaccine (shot) must be change each 6 months and increases you odds of getting the flu
by 38%.
getting the flu no vaccine = 2%
getting the flu with vaccine = 2.46%

Australia has onll 837 deaths yet draconian measures are being implemented.

"In a glimpse of what is ahead, authorities have already arrested a Melbourne woman for allegedly writing pro-anti lockdown posts on social media."

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/pregnant-australian-mother-arrested-her-home-over-facebook-lockdown-protest-post

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https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

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It is natural to fear a pandemic produced by a virus which is only 10 months old. Numbers do not lie. I use the following sites: John Hopkins University, Washington University and Domo coronavirus tracker. The statistics are horrible. The fact of the matter is that people keep dying and going to hospitals. I have lost 10 family members and friends. I do not want to join the statistics. The reasons why USA ststistics are depressing is for not using mask,keeping social distance and washing hands. If people do not have discipline they will end up joining the statistics.
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It is natural to fear a pandemic produced by a virus which is only 10 months old. Numbers do not lie. I use the following sites: John Hopkins University, Washington University and Domo coronavirus tracker. The statistics are horrible. The fact of the matter is that people keep dying and going to hospitals. I have lost 10 family members and friends. I do not want to join the statistics. The reasons why USA ststistics are depressing is for not using mask,keeping social distance and washing hands. If people do not have discipline they will end up joining the statistics.
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Aquarian1,

I must respectfully disagree with some of your last posted opinions on Covid19. As an Australian living in Victoria/Melbourne which has the highest rate of infections and deaths, let me provide local context:

On your "Australia has onll 837 deaths yet draconian measures are being implemented".
This should read (as many many of us in Australia are directly aware: Australia has 'only' 837 deaths, BECAUSE we implemented strict public health measures, from the very start.

We did not want to end up like China, Italy, etc (Brazil, UK and the US were still in their infancy on this, in spite of the carnage in other countries, with their populist leaders ridiculing the idea that Covid was dangerous...I generalize, on the degree of ridicule which was doled out....some more bizarre than others )

We have currently implemented a 2nd lock down in my state of Victoria, because one of the first quarantine centres in Melbourne was badly managed leading to a rapid spike in infections in the general community. This was due to unprofessional (criminally negligent) behaviour of contractors managing the quarantine area and a government stuff-up, locally. These fatality numbers have now fallen to between 3-8 per day, with daily new infections around 32 - 45 per day. Yes it has a radical impact on livelihoods and almost everyone is reeling. However, we prefer to have temporary shut down, rather than deaths in the tens of thousands...Let me repeat...we'd rather do this, than have deaths in the tens of thousands.

As to the Covid being created deliberately. That falsehood has been debunked numerous times. I find it amazing that the extremely biased Tucker Carlson - with a Talking Head - saying they have evidence and then some photos of a Chinese facility, is taken as constituting evidence. Tucker Carlson basically runs infomercials for Trump (Like Pravda for Putin) and will host conspiratory theories by the bucket-load, if they support various unsubstantiated baitings by Donald Trump.

Maybe others can add to the debunking of misinformation, but here are just a few sources.

https://www.bu.edu/neidl/2020/03/coronavirus-did-not-come-from-a-lab-experts-debunk-myths-that-chinese-or-american-military-engineered-covid-19-as-a-bio-weapon/
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/nine-covid-19-myths-that-just-wont-go-away/
https://www.wired.com/story/opinion-how-one-particular-coronavirus-myth-went-viral/
https://theconversation.com/pasha-66-coronavirus-conspiracy-theories-and-myths-139590

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this interview speaks for itself



Yep, pretty much any interview by Tucker Carlson, who is part of politicizing a disease, speaks for itself. He's never met a fact he couldn't mangle, and rarely meets a conservative conspiracy he can't embrace.

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Yep, pretty much any interview by Tucker Carlson, who is part of politicizing a disease, speaks for itself. He's never met a fact he couldn't mangle, and rarely meets a conservative conspiracy he can't embrace.

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I'm afraid I don't follow MSM enough to speak to Tucker.
I posted the interview clip because Twitter censored the Chinese Dr.

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Aquarian1,

I must respectfully disagree with some of your last posted opinions on Covid19. As an Australian living in Victoria/Melbourne which has the highest rate of infections and deaths, let me provide local context:

On your "Australia has onll 837 deaths yet draconian measures are being implemented".
This should read (as many many of us in Australia are directly aware: Australia has 'only' 837 deaths, BECAUSE we implemented strict public health measures, from the very start.

We did not want to end up like China, Italy, etc (Brazil, UK and the US were still in their infancy on this, in spite of the carnage in other countries, with their populist leaders ridiculing the idea that Covid was dangerous...I generalize, on the degree of ridicule which was doled out....some more bizarre than others )

We have currently implemented a 2nd lock down in my state of Victoria, because one of the first quarantine centres in Melbourne was badly managed leading to a rapid spike in infections in the general community. This was due to unprofessional (criminally negligent) behaviour of contractors managing the quarantine area and a government stuff-up, locally. These fatality numbers have now fallen to between 3-8 per day, with daily new infections around 32 - 45 per day. Yes it has a radical impact on livelihoods and almost everyone is reeling. However, we prefer to have temporary shut down, rather than deaths in the tens of thousands...Let me repeat...we'd rather do this, than have deaths in the tens of thousands.

As to the Covid being created deliberately. That falsehood has been debunked numerous times. I find it amazing that the extremely biased Tucker Carlson - with a Talking Head - saying they have evidence and then some photos of a Chinese facility, is taken as constituting evidence. Tucker Carlson basically runs infomercials for Trump (Like Pravda for Putin) and will host conspiratory theories by the bucket-load, if they support various unsubstantiated baitings by Donald Trump.

Maybe others can add to the debunking of misinformation, but here are just a few sources.

https://www.bu.edu/neidl/2020/03/coronavirus-did-not-come-from-a-lab-experts-debunk-myths-that-chinese-or-american-military-engineered-covid-19-as-a-bio-weapon/
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/nine-covid-19-myths-that-just-wont-go-away/
https://www.wired.com/story/opinion-how-one-particular-coronavirus-myth-went-viral/
https://theconversation.com/pasha-66-coronavirus-conspiracy-theories-and-myths-139590

Cheers

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I am reminded of the joke:
A fellow is out walking and sees a neighbour scattering peanut shells on his lawn.
"Excuse me friend why are you scattering peanut shells on your lawn?"
- To keep away elephants.
"But there are no elephants here."
-See- it works!

The is a logical fallacy between result and casaulity. Sweden is done. new deaths are a trickle.
The deaths in Australia from homelessness, fear and loss of income would probably be a substantial amount.

However, you can look up the number who have died each year in Australia from the "regular" flu and pneumonia. No doubt you will see that it is same as Yuhan manufactured flu.

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