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@xplorer is this something you could do (if it has support) or would this need the big guy?

I don't think I have the ability to do it - probably best course of action is to wait until Mike is back and ask again then.

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Hi NJAMC,
De Prado covers pretty much all that in his book. In a video he even bags on covnets..
"My dog can recognize faces too, that doesn't mean you want my dog managing your portfolio."

I think autoencoders could be interesting for market data to produce features for another algorithm but other than that deep learning just doesn't interest me much.

I have to revisit the Reinforcement Learning in Finance coursera again though. That guy has some interesting stuff to say for sure but I didn't grasp it the first time I tried.

All I meant with my example is I think we have all been betrayed by science fiction and movies to view this as the ultimate deep subject when we are really talking about simple tools. I would almost contend if you start from scratch, modern web development is a much more complicated thing to learn than machine learning.



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Hi @centaurer,

That is part of it, but there are other parts needed if you are not running standard IID (Independent and Identical Data) upon a well understood problem. For example, image feature detection is one that is well understood now, but you will not find much in the way of Time Series yet or Reinforcement Learning (other than a few samples).

The issue is thought needs to go into the model to make sure it doesn't over or under fit. Also, in the case of RL, stability is a problem which needs to be fine tuned. In the case of RL, the model can oscillate as it is being trained which forces an infinitely long training cycle.

I suspect an easier tool like the one Uber released is good for learning basics and experimenting with ML but might not be a good choice for a problem that hasn't been solved yet. Trading data within the stock market is a particularly difficult dataset to pre-process since it is non-stationary and non-linear. This means that some of the basic ML techniques will not work due to the IID assumption in the input data (which isn't explicitly stated within the sample problems). I don't think the Uber tool will have the flexibility to stabilize some problems.

But again, it might develop over time and I haven't gone through the technical documentation to check that statement. But proceed with caution, use this to learn about ML. Most of the top Deep Learning libraries are heading to this "No coding" type of structure (although you are coding through the config file so don't kid yourself). Tensorflow has Keras now as a preferred front end starting with TensorFlow 2.0. It is done with a simple Python script much like demoed in the youtube above.


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@Big Mike will be adding a subforum to the Elite Circle to include machine learning and AI.

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I would have never started the AI and Trading thread had I seen this thread

Your thread was started before this one.

 
 
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I am also working on more programming webinars. So if there is interest we need to see it.

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Remaining the existing one, but need time.
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@Big Mike will be adding a subforum to the Elite Circle to include machine learning and AI.

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I am also working on more programming webinars. So if there is interest we need to see it.

My kid is doing his master thesis/script on AI in trading
some new blood on this topic could do some good...

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Your thread was started before this one.

I started mine on March 22. First post on this thread was March 17. Problem is the title in this thread did not mention or even imply anything about AI so I never looked at it. As long as we have an AI thread in the end, I'm good with however it shakes out. Thanks, though!

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Hi NJAMC,
De Prado covers pretty much all that in his book. In a video he even bags on covnets..
"My dog can recognize faces too, that doesn't mean you want my dog managing your portfolio."

Well, if he was a 'bull' dog he would've done great the last ten years

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My kid is doing his master thesis/script on AI in trading
some new blood on this topic could do some good...

The market now has two leplaes to deal with.

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