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Video Interview: Kase Bars

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i would tell you my exact set up if i was back at my trading computer --- unfortunately wont be home for a few weeks --- i have pulled up gold/ES/NQ only in nt7 and all the historical data needed and connected to iB --- you might have to contact them for the other questions --- but i know i was surprised they offered the historical data --- so maybe it is just for the 3 i happened to choose ... but a good question ...

zenfires is limited back data if i remember correctly -- not sure how far back it goes --- kinetic which is a paid service might do a bit better --- but thats about all i know at the moment

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zenfires is limited back data if i remember correctly

Zen has no historical data. But, if you are a NinjaTrader user you can use NT's historical server, which last time I checked was keeping nearly one year of tick data, quite impressive. IQFeed has been growing their tick data as well, I believe they only advertise 30 days but I recently pulled over six months worth.

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Thanks, I will contact Ninjatrader support to see if their servers have foreign stock exchange back data. Thx!

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Kase bars

Hello:
I use Kase bars using the ATR of my tick bar chart from 9:45 to 3:45 and leave out any news spikes or FOMC days. I take the low from the high and divide it by 2 and add it to the low to get my kase bar setting. I take that number and use the day before to average a new setting. I have found it don't have to be that close but I measured in millionths of inches for a living for 34 years so I like to be precise.

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I love these bars, the are fitting my mind!

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Yeah, would be interesting. I've never created a custom bar type before but I know it can be done. And the single parameter for the bar type would be the ATR lookback period. So if you, say, had a 200 KaseBar chart, it's using a median ATR over 200 time bars, but over what minute time frame? 5min, 15min, 60min? You'd need a 2nd parameter to determine the correct range bar size. Maybe you can keep the lookback period constant (100, 200, what?) and the parameter would be what minute bar size you want to computer ATR over.

Any thoughts on how to tackle this?

First off, I don't think a Kase 200 bar chart would be practical. I don't know of a symbol that may move that much.
The highest I use on the ES is 16 on TS.
As to your problem, have you tried highest high and lowest low for the time frame you had in mind. With that you should be able to compute your ATR.
Good luck

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Kase Bars are proprietary to Kase and Company, Inc. and the methodology and display for plotting Kase Bars is copyrighted intellectual property of Kase. Kase Bars are available at no charge on TradeStation and BLOOMBERG PROFESSIONAL . Any other charting vendor (NinjaTrader or others) interested in Kase Bars may contact Cynthia Kase at kase@kaseco.com.

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Kase Bars are proprietary to Kase and Company, Inc. and the methodology and display for plotting Kase Bars is copyrighted intellectual property of Kase. Kase Bars are available at no charge on TradeStation and BLOOMBERG PROFESSIONAL . Any other charting vendor (NinjaTrader or others) interested in Kase Bars may contact Cynthia Kase at kase@kaseco.com.

Why is this guy not marked as a vendor on futures.io (formerly BMT)?

Also, anyone looking for this bar type should know that it is available free of charge for Ninja and Sierra as well, just search the site.

The bar type is not rocket science, as it is just a tweak on Range bars. That said though, I DO use them because they are better than range bars (again, the reasons are all here on the site).

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Why is this guy not marked as a vendor on futures.io (formerly BMT)?

Also, anyone looking for this bar type should know that it is available free of charge for Ninja and Sierra as well, just search the site.

The bar type is not rocket science, as it is just a tweak on Range bars. That said though, I DO use them because they are better than range bars (again, the reasons are all here on the site).

I think because it was not originally posted by him, and is not selling anything just explaining what case bars are.
I use them as well.

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Foster Bars are proprietary to vegasfoster, Inc. and the methodology and display for plotting Foster Bars is copyrighted intellectual property of Foster. Foster Bars are available at no charge on TradeStation and BLOOMBERG PROFESSIONAL . Any other charting vendor (NinjaTrader or others) interested in Foster Bars may contact vegasfoster at vegasfoster@fosterbarsaremineyoubett...offbitches.com

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