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Iamito
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Hi there

Quick intro (and a question at the end): I just started learning about orderflow trading through John Grady's material. Got NinjaTrader and Jigsaw. Decided to get into treasuries because Grady made a great case for it (basically, high volume + less choppiness than ES + low fees). If anyone is in a similar situation as me (i.e. product, trading strategy...) and would like to exchange ideas once in a while via PM, please send me a message. I find any learning process to take place faster if people exchange ideas.

Here's the question: Last Friday, volume for the ZN SEP-18 was 1.3 million. But there were also 476 contracts exchange for the ZN DEC-18. Why would anyone want to trade already the next roll over? Why not stick to the most liquid (SEP-18)?

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Hi there

Quick intro (and a question at the end): I just started learning about orderflow trading through John Grady's material. Got NinjaTrader and Jigsaw. Decided to get into treasuries because Grady made a great case for it (basically, high volume + less choppiness than ES + low fees). If anyone is in a similar situation as me (i.e. product, trading strategy...) and would like to exchange ideas once in a while via PM, please send me a message. I find any learning process to take place faster if people exchange ideas.

Here's the question: Last Friday, volume for the ZN SEP-18 was 1.3 million. But there were also 476 contracts exchange for the ZN DEC-18. Why would anyone want to trade already the next roll over? Why not stick to the most liquid (SEP-18)?

Thank you

Hi Iamito, welcome to the forum.


About your question: one way to trade is how you envisaged, i.e. trade as speculators using the most liquid contract.

But there are also other ways to trade; for example spread trading would involve trading the same product but not necessarily the same contract.


Also, bear in mind that not all whom trade do so for speculation. There are other entities, typically non-retail ones, who may need to hedge some of their investments, and so a contract other than the most liquid one may be used, according to their investment strategy.



Hope it answers your question somewhat.

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Hi there

Quick intro (and a question at the end): I just started learning about orderflow trading through John Grady's material. Got NinjaTrader and Jigsaw. Decided to get into treasuries because Grady made a great case for it (basically, high volume + less choppiness than ES + low fees). If anyone is in a similar situation as me (i.e. product, trading strategy...) and would like to exchange ideas once in a while via PM, please send me a message. I find any learning process to take place faster if people exchange ideas.

Here's the question: Last Friday, volume for the ZN SEP-18 was 1.3 million. But there were also 476 contracts exchange for the ZN DEC-18. Why would anyone want to trade already the next roll over? Why not stick to the most liquid (SEP-18)?

Thank you

Hi

this is an old post but i wonder if u keep trading the treasuries with jigsaw (the Grady's style lol)

im new to treasuries and jigsaw ,coming from the ES which finely proved me that im NOT good enough trading them....the choppiness killed me there lol lol

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