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What is your experience using a 4k TV as a monitor?

I just set up a 43" 4k TV I purchased at Costco in lieu of a multiple monitor setup I was considering. It works great, and was easy to set up. Having built in speakers is a plus as well.

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I'm using two 4K 55" Sony TVs as computer monitors in 3840X2160 mode. With TVs you have to be careful of two main things - lag and colour chroma settings. The lag determines how slow the TV updates the signal after it comes from the computer and the chroma settings determine how many bits are used to store the colour in the TV signal. This determines how many colours you will receive on the TV.

If you want to use more than one TV as a computer monitors it can be technically challenging to get the right graphics card.

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Just bought a Samsung MU6290 for a budget installation

I just bought a Samsung 43" MU 6290 at Costco for $350 plus tax. Costco has a very liberal return policy, so if I'm not happy I'll bring it back. I ran into a couple of issues setting it up, but it looks like it may work. My experience so far:

Setup:

At first audio did not work coming out of the HDMI. It turns out my motherboard bios did not have Intel onboard graphics as the boot graphics. I also have a budget low power graphics board on the computer that does not support 3840 x 2160 resolution, and that was the default graphics device. I had to switch the hdmi cable to that device to even see the bios settings when the computer booted. But after I did that and rebooted I was able to made onboard graphics the default device (it's an MSI motherboard if anyone cares) and when I switched the hdmi cable back to the onboard hdmi socket I could now see the bios setup and also the sound now worked. Problem #1 solved.

Currently the maximum refresh rate shown in the Intel HD Graphics control panel is 30P Hz. Apparently I should be using 60P Hz according to what I've been reading online. Intel claims to support the 60P Hz standard with this chip, but I need a high speed hdmi cable. I'm gonna look around the house to see if I have one, and if I don't I'll order an Amazon Basics high speed cable ($6.99 prime for a 6 foot cable or $9.96 for the three pack) which should show up tomorrow. Don't know how much difference doubling the refresh rate will make, but for seven bucks I'll do what everyone says I should do.

Update: Cannibalized a high speed cable off my Comcast cable box. 3840 x 2160 60P Hz is now listed as an option in the Intel control panel but not yet when I try to actually adjust screen resolution. I'll keep you posted.

Viewing experience:

A) Screen resolution seems fine. There's a little reflection off the screen but it's not bothersome to me. I don't know and I don't particularly care about color accuracy, etc., but it doesn't seem any worse than the Dell S2415H monitor I've been using and which I like. My biggest beef is that I can't tilt the screen. The stand for this budget TV is definitely on the primitive side, but plenty sturdy. Of course I could just put a couple of coasters under the front of the stand to tilt it up, or buy a VESA mount and mount it to the wall. For now I'm being cheap, so if necessary I'll go with option #1.

B) In years past when I used up to 8 monitors for trading, back in the day when a 20" monitor was "large" and expensive, I was able to aim each monitor directly at me. I find it a little uncomfortable to look at the outside edges of this large screen, because they don't aim directly at me. A curved screen might be better, but as I said this is a BUDGET installation. And this is definitely way better than trying to trade on a single 24" monitor.

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I just bought a Samsung 43" MU 6290 at Costco for $350 plus tax. Costco has a very liberal return policy, so if I'm not happy I'll bring it back. I ran into a couple of issues setting it up, but it looks like it may work. My experience so far:

Setup:

At first audio did not work coming out of the HDMI. It turns out my motherboard bios did not have Intel onboard graphics as the boot graphics. I also have a budget low power graphics board on the computer that does not support 3840 x 2160 resolution, and that was the default graphics device. I had to switch the hdmi cable to that device to even see the bios settings when the computer booted. But after I did that and rebooted I was able to made onboard graphics the default device (it's an MSI motherboard if anyone cares) and when I switched the hdmi cable back to the onboard hdmi socket I could now see the bios setup and also the sound now worked. Problem #1 solved.

Currently the maximum refresh rate shown in the Intel HD Graphics control panel is 30P Hz. Apparently I should be using 60P Hz according to what I've been reading online. Intel claims to support the 60P Hz standard with this chip, but I need a high speed hdmi cable. I'm gonna look around the house to see if I have one, and if I don't I'll order an Amazon Basics high speed cable ($6.99 prime for a 6 foot cable or $9.96 for the three pack) which should show up tomorrow. Don't know how much difference doubling the refresh rate will make, but for seven bucks I'll do what everyone says I should do.

Update: Cannibalized a high speed cable off my Comcast cable box. 3840 x 2160 60P Hz is now listed as an option in the Intel control panel but not yet when I try to actually adjust screen resolution. I'll keep you posted.

Viewing experience:

A) Screen resolution seems fine. There's a little reflection off the screen but it's not bothersome to me. I don't know and I don't particularly care about color accuracy, etc., but it doesn't seem any worse than the Dell S2415H monitor I've been using and which I like. My biggest beef is that I can't tilt the screen. The stand for this budget TV is definitely on the primitive side, but plenty sturdy. Of course I could just put a couple of coasters under the front of the stand to tilt it up, or buy a VESA mount and mount it to the wall. For now I'm being cheap, so if necessary I'll go with option #1.

B) In years past when I used up to 8 monitors for trading, back in the day when a 20" monitor was "large" and expensive, I was able to aim each monitor directly at me. I find it a little uncomfortable to look at the outside edges of this large screen, because they don't aim directly at me. A curved screen might be better, but as I said this is a BUDGET installation. And this is definitely way better than trying to trade on a single 24" monitor.

The Sanus Simplicity mount solves the problem of swivel and tilt. You can also buy this at Costco. I mounted a 43" monitor for my girlfriend and I am going back to grab a second 43" monitor and this mount that I will use on a wall to the right as an auxiliary monitor for additional charts and analyzers. It pulls out 24" so adjusting it is a breeze. Unlike alot of monitor mounts, this thing can handle up to a 90" TV, so handling a 43" monitor is child's play. Here is a video link to the mount.

https://www.costco.com/SANUS-Simplicity-37%22---90%22-Full-Motion-TV-Mount.product.100244789.html

The TCL 43" is the 4K monitor I purchased. It is currently at Costco for 299.00. A great deal. It has a computer mode as part of the setup, so not much to do in the way of setup. When I plugged it into my computer via an HDMI cable, it was recognized immediately. Essentially plug and play. It has a refresh rate of 120 so has worked fine with no glitches to report. Sound is fantastic as well via the built in TV speakers. Link to the product pdf:

https://www.costco.com/TCL-43%22-Class-%2843.0%22-Diag.%29-4K-Ultra-HD-Roku-LED-...l+43%22+4k&storeId=10301

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In years past when I used up to 8 monitors for trading, back in the day when a 20" monitor was "large" and expensive, I was able to aim each monitor directly at me. I find it a little uncomfortable to look at the outside edges of this large screen, because they don't aim directly at me. A curved screen might be better, but as I said this is a BUDGET installation. And this is definitely way better than trying to trade on a single 24" monitor.

I totally get this... I have trouble dealing with the periphery on my 27" monitor for some reason... not that I can't see it, but it just bugs the crap out of me I'd be a good candidate for a couple of those nice curved jobs.

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Update

Although Intel claims the onboard graphics (530) should support 3840 x 2160 (hdmi 2.0), my motherboard apparently does not. So far I'm not suffering using 30P Hz, so for now I'm just going to leave it that way. Micro Center, which sold me and supports the Powerspec g403 computer I'm using, suggested a Gigabyte GeForce GT 1030 GV-N1030D5-2GL Low Profile 2G Computer Graphics Card as a budget card that would support hdmi 2.0, $80 on Amazon, $90 at Micro Center. If I decide to upgrade to hdmi 2.0 I may go with the next card up, the GeForce GTX 1050.

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The TCL 43" is the 4K monitor I purchased. It is currently at Costco for 299.00. A great deal. It has a computer mode as part of the setup, so not much to do in the way of setup. When I plugged it into my computer via an HDMI cable, it was recognized immediately. Essentially plug and play. It has a refresh rate of 120 so has worked fine with no glitches to report. Sound is fantastic as well via the built in TV speakers. Link to the product pdf:



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Originally I was going to buy the TCL but Consumer Reports gave the Samsung a significantly higher rating so I decided to spend the extra $50.

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