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Trading for a living & taxes in EU

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i live in italy so capital gain is taxed on it's own at 26% (in general...then you have different taxation about differnts instruments like etfs, state bonds - 12,5% - and so on .....) plus 3/4% for incompetent accountants (mandatory because of the ridiculous complexity of the bureaucracy and the high level of incompetence and bribery of the public aministration) ...

plus ... if you earn a good living out of your activity, the tax office will be interested in you and your money and they always find a way to fine you and ask for more money....

....it's not a nice place to live unless you are a retired person > 60/65 yo, with a minimum of 2000€ month income and you live where there's turism (near the sea or montains not the cities)

not a place for families and definitely not for young people

Right... in Portugal, that little corner of the world things are not as cheap (it seems tax rates there are better) but at least more straightforward and simple. Anyhow, taxation in Europe for these matters should be harmonised and simplified. Having all these different systems is non-sense.

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i know in NL you are taxed 30% assuming an average gain of 4% on all your savings
so you pay 1,2% (4% 0f 30%) on your entire capital regardless your gains or losses .... the problem is (as i know) you can't do trading as main profession ... i mean ... i trade for a living and i have not other sources of income ... with over 200 trades x month ...

... as my knoledge I will be taxed (as private) as income (not capital gain) at 33% more or less ...
don't know if one trade through a company, wich type, licences (i assume trading througha company qualifies you as professional, so maybe licences are needed) and costs ... would be awesome knowing more about it

can you provide some links since look like you are trading from NL? Thanks!

You don't need to say that you are a professional trader.There is no rule in the Netherlands that you need to have a profession. In your tax declaration you say that you don't have an income.
What you earn as a private trader is not taxed ( only 1,3% on total possessions on your bank account). One drawback is that you cannot subtract your losses.

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You don't need to say that you are a professional trader.There is no rule in the Netherlands that you need to have a profession. In your tax declaration you say that you don't have an income.
What you earn as a private trader is not taxed ( only 1,3% on total possessions on your bank account). One drawback is that you cannot subtract your losses.

...i think there's no problem if you are dutch and you have already your tax residency in NL ... but if i want to move my tax residency from spain to NL i think i have to prove to the local IRS Agency i am self-sufficient
so i need a normal job or i need to be a self-employed, a freelancer .... 1,3% on total possessions in EU would be too good to be true


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