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I only write strategies to test out ideas. I used to autotrade several strategies, I did it for months and they worked and I didn't have any problems. It was cool when we were on vacation we went to Disneyland and I came home and I had made $700 that day on my automated strategy. So I can vouch for the automation. I have ran automated strategies on and off since December and never had a series problem. Experienced a couple design flaws but I quickly coded around them. I also set it up to email me on every execution so I can know what's going on when I'm away.

All that said, most of my strategies stopped working (they couldn't adapt to the constantly changing markets) and a few that still work are less profitable than my other strategies that I do manually so I stopped them.

Anyway, it's great to test out ideas but I now do everything manually. One thing I use strategies for is developing indicators. I've developed lots of indicators but when I test them only a handful test positive. It's nice having "proof" that an indicator works, eyeballing it is often misleading.

Now that I'm back from vacation I can test out the strategy I wrote with tick data. Will post the results.

Thank you. It's good to hear of other folks' experience with strategies. I look forward to testing the tick strategy. I've been playing around with indicator settings today, based on a comment made yesterday, I've added another LBR310 to my chart with the default settings of 3,16,10, and a 3 period Sean's Average (just to check it out). I've attached a screenshot if you'd like to take a crack at setting up a strategy based on those. This won't work for an 'always in a position' strategy. I've set up an ATM strategy with a 30 tick stop loss & a 15 tick profit target. The rules are: IF the SMI2 is above its signal line (blue) AND the LBR310 (3,16,10) is above its signal line - GO LONG. IF the SMI2 is below its signal line (red) AND the LBR310 (3,16,10) is below its signal line - GO SHORT. Just playing around today to see how different settings affect things overall. Since the re-painting issue with the DoubleMAPaint_Sharky indicator was discovered, I've kind of backed off trusting the signals they give, and instead basing more of the decision making on the SMI2 / LBR310. Thanks for being a part of BigMike's community!

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I'm thinking its not going to work on every singe time the indicators say go short and go long. These indicators rock but you need to trade it manually because it takes a human to recognize the mood of the market, where the support and resistance area's are, the speed the offers fill in or the speed the bids fill in. you get the point. I use the indicators to help me time my entries and exits but they aren't 100% I almost got stopped out this morning on a trade cause the indicators gave a signal and i took it.
well what I didn't notice is that we where nowhere near a support or resistance level, we were just floating in no man's land, i was just watching the indicators to turn color. I ended up keeping my cool and getting 4 ticks on 2 contracts, but i had to sit through some pain. look at the chart i posted.
A better entry would have been up at 998 are where the resistance was! but look the indicators were pointing down and i sucked in. see how later we went up to that level and reversed? and notice how we broke the trend I drew. THATS WHERE TO SHORT! and use the indicators to help you get in the entry. Thats how i'm trading it today ! Thanks WIZ u da man

edit: one more thing. you have to manage your stops properly! honestly! my stop on this was nearly 4 points. I placed it over the previous resistance at 999.50! people with 2 point stops your going to get whipped out of the market everytime i promise. thats how the Market Makers get their money. read the chart if you can't take the pain you can't play . got to get back to trading see you all later

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I'm thinking its not going to work on every singe time the indicators say go short and go long. These indicators rock but you need to trade it manually because it takes a human to recognize the mood of the market, where the support and resistance area's are, the speed the offers fill in or the speed the bids fill in. you get the point. I use the indicators to help me time my entries and exits but they aren't 100% I almost got stopped out this morning on a trade cause the indicators gave a signal and i took it.
well what I didn't notice is that we where nowhere near a support or resistance level, we were just floating in no man's land, i was just watching the indicators to turn color. I ended up keeping my cool and getting 4 ticks on 2 contracts, but i had to sit through some pain. look at the chart i posted.
A better entry would have been up at 998 are where the resistance was! but look the indicators were pointing down and i sucked in. see how later we went up to that level and reversed? and notice how we broke the trend I drew. THATS WHERE TO SHORT! and use the indicators to help you get in the entry. Thats how i'm trading it today ! Thanks WIZ u da man

edit: one more thing. you have to manage your stops properly! honestly! my stop on this was nearly 4 points. I placed it over the previous resistance at 999.50! people with 2 point stops your going to get whipped out of the market everytime i promise. thats how the Market Makers get their money. read the chart if you can't take the pain you can't play . got to get back to trading see you all later

Check this out. I added an LBR310 (3,16,10 - default settings) to see how it compared to my (3,5,10) at the suggestion of other forum members yesterday and it seems to give fewer 'false' signals. Considering the bar re-painting issue with the DMAP indicators, I pay attention only to the SMI2 and LBR310 (3,16,10) It's been working almost flawlessly this morning on the TF.
RULES: IF the SMI2 crosses it's signal line & the LBR310 crosses its signal line, take the trade. I set an ATM strategy with a 30 tick stop loss and a 15 tick profit, which I manually move up / down as price moves. I've also added Seans Average to see how it looks.

After all, it's what you learn AFTER you know it all, that counts!
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How about add ECO2 in this system?

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where did you get seans average?

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where did you get seans average?

look here


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OK, if the refresh wasnt bad enough, I've noticed it misses bars as well,

this pic shows you the missing bars




This pic after I click on F5 (refresh)


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now that is interesting! I can't believe its just leaving bars off your chart like that! you have it on calculate on bar close "false" right? I assume you do, but that's weird

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YRoyal,

Here you go. You will have to add the LBR310 twice and make one with transparent HPline.

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