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Any of you guys try something like this? If so, any luck?

Basically, the trade is getting long or short about 5 ticks before an obvious S/R level in the belief that momentum will carry it on thru. Here's a screenie.

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Please tell us more and post the indicator

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This is price pattern or abc pattern or 123 pattern.

you can work with limit orders or stopp orders.

the price break new level. some brokers cancel the orders (the have their gain) and price come back. other players will have the new price and buy or sell. if you want only 5 ticks:

1 order for closing the position on high.
2 order 5 ticks before to open the order.

this work on any trend market. but the range is your enemy with sl.

wh

https://www.earnforex.com/forex_e-books/trading_strategy/123system.pdf

you can use this as scalping strategy. but you need an higher high or lower low as target. look for price action and mml. this is what i do.

look also double bottom or top as targets and ...

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Please tell us more and post the indicator

There's nothing to it, really. I'm just looking for obvious S/R (support and resistance) levels and getting in about 5 ticks before the level is penetrated, on the assumption that many traders will also see these levels and play the breakout.

There's not really any indicators. The white line is just a donchian channel that I like to use to keep things nice and tidy, but it's not necessary to have it. The S/R levels are pretty obvious.

Here's another screenie...

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The problem is where do you put your stop? If you put it close, the market could easily pull back a few bars and stop you out. If you put it below the last swing pivot, then one stop loss could take away several winners.

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Looks like it would work for a few ticks OK

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The problem is where do you put your stop?

Good question...

Maybe we could do something like this. Say we have a $25,000 account and we don't want to risk more than 2%. ($500) So, here's another screenie of the same chart, but this time, maybe we can "add" a contract if it moves against us a little.

On the 1st trade, we buy 1, and the market goes right on up, so were good on that one.

On the 2nd trade, we buy 1, it comes back 5 ticks, so we add another unit, and the market goes on up, so were good on that trade.

On the 3rd trade, we buy 1, comes back 5 ticks, so we add 1, comes back 5 ticks, we add another, comes back another 5 ticks, so we get out for a $375 loss or 1.5% of our account.

On the 4th trade, we buy 1, and the market goes on up, so were good on that one.

So, what do you think about something like that?

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Maybe we could do something like this. Say we have a $25,000 account and we don't want to risk more than 2%. ($500) So, here's another screenie of the same chart, but this time, maybe we can "add" a contract if it moves against us a little.

I think you must read a few books about trading. Start with this one:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/0471770884?tag=advanwebamazocom&camp=213381&creative=390973&linkCode=as4&creativeASIN=0471770884&adid=0KN02BN95B06Y56QWMXF&

What you are suggesting will wipe out your account.

NEVER add to a losing position.

There exceptions to this rule but they are for advanced traders only.

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Try doing the opposite of what you're doing. When price touches the S/R line, fade the move. If it's moving up then go short. This way you can set your stop on the other side of the S/R line. And if price crosses the S/R line and you get stopped out, you could also use the stop to get yourself in.

Also remember that a strategy cannot enter and exit on the same bar with Ninjatrader (or any other platform). It's not reliable.

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I think you must read a few books about trading. Start with this one:

Amazon.com: Reminiscences of a Stock Operator (9780471059707): Marketplace Books: Books

What you are suggesting will wipe out your account.

NEVER add to a losing position.

There exceptions to this rule but they are for advanced traders only.

That's twice now someone has recommended that book. I'll check it out. Thanks

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