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Backing Up PC File(s) Is A Must

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iwannatoscript,
i hope to understand your question right :
in mozy i choose the whole folders "indicator" + "strategy" + " ..... " to backup + mozy looks every day at this folder and if there are single files new or changed in this folder , mozy backups these single files only (less traffic) - so the folders you choose are always uptodate in your online-backup, i have nothing at all manually myself.
i think memopal+ other services work simular in this way.

The main ninja-backup i make via ninja-back-up button - once a month ors as said.

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iwannatoscript,
i hope to understand your question right :
in mozy i choose the whole folders "indicator" + "strategy" + " ..... " to backup + mozy looks every day at this folder and if there are single files new or changed in this folder , mozy backups these single files only (less traffic) - so the folders you choose are always uptodate in your online-backup, i have nothing at all manually myself.
i think memopal+ other services work simular in this way.

The main ninja-backup i make via ninja-back-up button - once a month ors as said.

Does it keep a history? If so can you tell it to only keep the last x versions of a file? or the backups for the last 30 days? I'm curious how one controls the space you're using. With memopal you're limited to 150 or 250 gig of space.

I got gigs of old photos. I'm thinking of archiving them to a usb drive (WD passport 500gig) and either burning them to DVDs or a second usb drive. That way I don't have to back them up from my main pc all the time (I never change these files).

I think daily backups are good for files that are modified regularly. As it is now I'm backing up everything and I have 300+ gig backups but I know only a few gigs have changed. So I do incremental but after several increments it's better to just start over with a full backup..

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it overwrites the previous version if it recognice a change.
in my place here, it backups between 1 and 5 MB new each day -- but ie of workspaces - they stay with the same name - so the one from yesterday is about 2,1 MB and its getting overwritten today with some changes and then its 2,25 MB to upload it maybee - but only 0,15 MB add. online-space is needed.
and i am only online-backup those small files + important stuff like ninja-files+ docs.
not such Gig-pic-collections.

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it overwrites the previous version if it recognice a change.
in my place here, it backups between 1 and 5 MB new each day -- but ie of workspaces - they stay with the same name - so the one from yesterday is about 2,1 MB and its getting overwritten today with some changes and then its 2,25 MB to upload it maybee - but only 0,15 MB add. online-space is needed.
and i am only online-backup those small files + important stuff like ninja-files+ docs.
not such Gig-pic-collections.

Hey it's not porno, I do a lot of photography! They're my photos from the last 10+ years. Very precious.

I didn't realize that mozy only keeps one version of a file. I thought it could keep a history. Memopal keeps a history, so I'll ask them my question about how many versions.


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Memopal keeps track of the changes made to any files that you have chosen to archive. If you have made a mistake, or want to restore an old document that you have overwritten, you can always go back and access all previous versions of your files.

THis is important for me cause I often change a file and then regret it and I like to be able to go get a previous version. In ninjatrader I create a directory for the current date inside the custom/bin directory and I just zip it up now and then while I'm working. Then I can get back anything if I need it. Having these files also backed up offsite would be great.

Very interesting discussion, I didn't even know such things existed until this week.

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yep - nice topic.....
maybee mozy can keep history too - never checked that.

here is something i also use to make incremental backups of folders to save them on diff places (USB / network....) -- all full automatic once you configuered it .... you dont have to take care about it again - thats the way i need it -- never made backups - i hated that -- now i have these tools to do these jobs + it really nice.

Z-DBackup Freeware Backup Software für Windows :: Datensicherung mit ZD Backup
its free - but its in german only i think.

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hy Guys,

yes you understand my problem.

If tomorrow my pc go down, what are the fooldes that shoud i choose to back up by mozy of nj to be safe in a good restore?

If i want to tranfer all ninja from pc a to pc b what should i do?


database

i think that at thebeginning when it is small, we dont' have problem to back up all, but after when it become bigger and bigger what should we do?

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do an Nt backup to a file (inside NT) and just copy the file over to another pc. back it up on a USB drive. the file gets big so I often don't backup the history & database. Worse case I can do without it.

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I am using Microsoft SyncToy to do back-ups to USB HD. It is hassle free.

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Ok after a lot of thought here's what I am doing :

- I use trueimage to backup my computer to a 2nd drive used only for backup nightly. I realize this will protected me from hard disk failure but not virus or accidently deleting files

- once in a while (once a month?) I'll use trueimage again to back up the entire drive to a usb drive (WD Passport) and leave this drive in my desk at work. this is my offsite backup, and since it'll be a bit behind, will safeguard in case I delete something and don't realize it. advantage - bank account information is not on a server on the net. disadvantage - it's in my desk.

- i signed up for a free mozy account and I put my NT backup directory & Tradestation backup directories in the list of files for mozy to monitor. With this, all my spreadsheets and notes etc. it only takes up 1.2gig which is much less than the free 2gig account limit. This is offsite backup and since the NT backups are versionned I"ll have a history of the last x days. Mozy doesn't do the photos (they're too big for the free account), this is my only weakness.

I think that covers it. If I want to add my photos to the online backup then i'll sign up for memopal. 30% off and if you buy 3 years you get 50% off, not sure if you can cumulate them but if so it works out to be around $3/month.

Hope that helps for anyone considering how to back things up. I think the 3 keys are:

1 - offsite backup (online or just put the drive in another house/office)
2 - have previous versions of your files (keep your nt backup files for a month or so)
3 - use trueimage or similar so that you can restore an image without having to reinstall windows.

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