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Hi.

That's it, just "Hi"?

I think you might need to invest in the process a little bit more than that my dear friend.

What are your goals? Account size? Time frame? Current responsibilities? How much time and energy can you devote to this endeavor? Can you start to pin point your emotional baggage? Risk tolerance? etc

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I'm sorry. It was an error send. I wanted to delete it from posting but did not know how. My bad on both parts.

I've invested close to a year trading the /ES under ToS and NT and quite a bit of $$ Have charts candles somewhat down, use a few good indicators and the Levels for guidance, reading "In The Zone". Seek a solid person to be able to talk to for questions. Sorry about the just "Hi".

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I'm sorry. It was an error send. I wanted to delete it from posting but did not know how. My bad on both parts.



I've invested close to a year trading the /ES under ToS and NT and quite a bit of $$ Have charts candles somewhat down, use a few good indicators and the Levels for guidance, reading "In The Zone". Seek a solid person to be able to talk to for questions. Sorry about the just "Hi".


I don't think you can find just one mentor. I have, and I use the term freely, a bunch. Mark Douglas (books, meet and him heard him speak, large influence), John Richardson (emails, large influence), Justin Mamis (book, Internet, large influence), John Carter (book, meet him heard him speak, in his trade room for a few months, small influence), here at FIO (@Big Mike, many others here as well, FIO in general as a community, large influence) , Morad Askar FT71 (ideas and concepts, medium influence), Tom Sosnoff and Tastytrade (small to medium influence) and probably the most important part, my higher self, spiritual in nature, connecting with true religion something the world in the generality of mankind, IMHO, can not recognize or comprehend yet. Alex Wasilewski, Tom Busby (anti-mentors, learned what not to do, how not to behave or trade or be (these two were some years ago perhaps they are different now?)).

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Thanks. You sound extremely connected. I am not. I am reading "In The Zone" (Mark Douglas) I'd love to have multiple mentors... John Richardson looks like Options. Have heard FT71 is very good. I understand anti-mentor.

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Thanks. You sound extremely connected. I am not. I am reading "In The Zone" (Mark Douglas) I'd love to have multiple mentors... John Richardson looks like Options. Have heard FT71 is very good. I understand anti-mentor.


I am nothing....

I found a source, Troy Schauls, that I trusted from working with his Rancho Dinero volume profile tools and emailing him who vouched for John Richardson's as a good guy. He is IMO. He has two courses, I do have both, but his levels course is the heart of both his futures trading and his options trading. I have made it my own, as one does basically adding to it a bit but it works that much I know. But it took me over a year to be able to take the trade using it. Was to scared.

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Mahalo. I googled and found Troy Schauls of Rancho Dinero. Is that who you mean? He's TPO it looks like, I'm just a simple /ES trader. Could he be a help for me? I didn't see about futures trading or courses when I googled.

By the way, I use SMA, MACD, RSI and L2, and Support / Resistance to guide me. My entry points
are always too late and exits usually too early. Added on Supply-Demand but don't know the entries yet. ToS and NT 1-min charts.

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Mahalo. I googled and found Troy Schauls of Rancho Dinero. Is that who you mean? He's TPO it looks like, I'm just a simple /ES trader. Could he be a help for me? I didn't see about futures trading or courses when I googled.



By the way, I use SMA, MACD, RSI and L2, and Support / Resistance to guide me. My entry points

are always too late and exits usually too early. Added on Supply-Demand but don't know the entries yet. ToS and NT 1-min charts.



Yeah that's Troy. He is an ex Microsoft guy high level computer science engineer turned trader so he made his own tools because he could. Basically a volume profile guy but also has Time Price Opportunity market profile tools too and tools for enhancing market internals as well as order flow. His tools would help IMHO. But you could obtain similar tools with FIO Elite membership here for a lot less money but maybe not as complete tech support should you need it as Troy would offer as well as updates in line with software updates say from NinjaTrader.

The issues I would say in using derivative of OHLC indicators like you mentioned as I found is they were all created back in the day over 30 years ago for large time frames for example daily. We have come a long way with both tech and trading info and knowledge. I think you could replace those with market internals and after you climb the learning curve be better off. Like NY TICK, ADD advance declines and ADDSP, VIX maybe the TRIN on just equities not made from ETF's too. I totally love the 52 week Total Stock market New Highs New Lows which I get from IQFeed, add all together from each different stock market part like NYSE NASDAQ etc etc and plot it.

IMHO increase your time frame. 1 min is good for the TICK. Not sure if for ES. Are you familiar with volume bars? On ES maybe try 15,000-20,000 volume bars help you see the overnight compressed too for the over night high and low (ONH ONL) fade trade.

Ron

Edit: oops forgot a zero at end of 15,000...

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Thanks. Not sure if all of that applies to trading the S&P 500 e-minis... I do nothing with volume but know higher is better. Perhaps a reliable volume indicator? I watch what happens on the e-mines at night and like to trade nighttime too (like London) I know if I raise my chart from 1 min to 5 min I'll get rid of noise. Perhaps I'd be less reactive if everything was 5 min. But then I can miss a turn for say 4 minutes which could be very bad. Can I use 5 min for Supply and Demand bars?

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Thanks. Not sure if all of that applies to trading the S&P 500 e-minis... I do nothing with volume but know higher is better. Perhaps a reliable volume indicator? I watch what happens on the e-mines at night and like to trade nighttime too (like London) I know if I raise my chart from 1 min to 5 min I'll get rid of noise. Perhaps I'd be less reactive if everything was 5 min. But then I can miss a turn for say 4 minutes which could be very bad. Can I use 5 min for Supply and Demand bars?


Short on time now but I would say volume is probably the most important thing need to worry about. It's amount of speed of lack of volume lack of speed location of volume. Volume at price needs to be studied I think that is volume on the y-axis of the chart at each price level. Volume will tell you were value was on the chart price is just an advertising mechanism for value price is trying to trick you value doesn't trick you value is volume grouping. Sorry no time right now.

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Thanks again. Agree volume is important. I don't see it. What indicator should I use with futures, 1-min, /ES, and NT7? Goggle this and there are way too many replies.

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Mahalo. I googled and found Troy Schauls of Rancho Dinero. Is that who you mean? He's TPO it looks like, I'm just a simple /ES trader. Could he be a help for me? I didn't see about futures trading or courses when I googled.

By the way, I use SMA, MACD, RSI and L2, and Support / Resistance to guide me. My entry points
are always too late and exits usually too early. Added on Supply-Demand but don't know the entries yet. ToS and NT 1-min charts.

So lose the macd and the rsi!

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Thanks again. Agree volume is important. I don't see it. What indicator should I use with futures, 1-min, /ES, and NT7? Goggle this and there are way too many replies.

other than volume /Gomi foot prints, Jigsaw tools, Cory's volume stuff/ and Price Action Swing indicator. Also you shall not look at 1 minute charts at all, rather range bars or renko bars /Unirenko is a good start/ to filter out noise which is very important when you are still relative new. If you are trying to learn TPO info I'd suggest Peter Reznicek /shadowtrader.net and also on tasty trade daily via thinkorswim/ and of course James Dalton who is Peter's mentor.

What I suggested above it is too much at once but you shall pick one area and focus on it for months. Also you HAVE to read through Big Mike's thread when he "travels" from trading via indicators than loosing them all.
Eventually you have to develop yourself to a discretionary trader where you can filter out loosing trades with a greater success.

Hope this helps.

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Thanks again. Agree volume is important. I don't see it. What indicator should I use with futures, 1-min, /ES, and NT7? Goggle this and there are way too many replies.



On the surface perhaps volume may seem 1 dimensional but hidden within this first impression is the concept of value and the auction process. Volume per time unit is helpful but volume per price level offers IMHO an astounding level of insight In to the workings of a market. Any market. Next time you are in the grocery store think about it and view yourself as a customer AND a supplier. I keep and eye on Kerry Gold unsalted butter . Love the stuff and love Ireland. The store I shop most at, Mariano's, has a high price but TraderJoes cross the street has a better/good price. So it moves more there. More volume. Mariano's price has been coming down and I bought one to show to them they are on the right track. But I bought, I think it was 12, at TraderJoes. If you graph out the price and volume of Kerry Gold butter at the two store with volume at price what would it look like?

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On the surface perhaps volume may seem 1 dimensional but hidden within this first impression is the concept of value and the auction process. Volume per time unit is helpful but volume per price level offers IMHO an astounding level of insight In to the workings of a market. Any market. Next time you are in the grocery store think about it and view yourself as a customer AND a supplier. I keep and eye on Kerry Gold unsalted butter . Love the stuff and love Ireland. The store I shop most at, Mariano's, has a high price but TraderJoes cross the street has a better/good price. So it moves more there. More volume. Mariano's price has been coming down and I bought one to show to them they are on the right track. But I bought, I think it was 12, at TraderJoes. If you graph out the price and volume of Kerry Gold butter at the two store with volume at price what would it look like?

Ron



Hello Ron,

As usual here I don't know where or how to reply on this site, or really where to find messages. I find the whole forum very non-intuitive. I'm sure its my bad. I suppose volume per price level s most important. I'll try to google that. While I'd like to read here I just don't know how to navigate well. Hope this comes back to you okay. I didn't get the butter analogy. Sorry.

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As usual here I don't know where or how to reply on this site, or really where to find messages. I find the whole forum very non-intuitive. I'm sure its my bad. I suppose volume per price level s most important. I'll try to google that. While I'd like to read here I just don't know how to navigate well. Hope this comes back to you okay. I didn't get the butter analogy. Sorry.



--Gary



I will try to put together a short helpful (I hope) video about FIO and describe my point better regarding butter. Sorry about that.

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I will try to put together a short helpful (I hope) video about FIO and describe my point better regarding butter. Sorry about that.

Ron


I guess my message got to you, but still have difficulty navigating here. Wish we could just read and send messages. I googled Volume At Price (Volume) Indicator here. Ninjicators looks to have a good one but I cannot understand what this is or how to use. Over my head.

Gary

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I am nothing....

I found a source, Troy Schauls, that I trusted from working with his Rancho Dinero volume profile tools and emailing him who vouched for John Richardson's as a good guy. He is IMO. He has two courses, I do have both, but his levels course is the heart of both his futures trading and his options trading. I have made it my own, as one does basically adding to it a bit but it works that much I know. But it took me over a year to be able to take the trade using it. Was to scared.

Ron

Hi there-

I've been exploring Volume at Price indicators and came across TAS , would you think GOMi would be a better place to start (and doesn't cost an arm and a leg). I'm considering an elite membership- would you guys also suggest any of those indicators as well for VAP?

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I've been exploring Volume at Price indicators and came across TAS , would you think GOMi would be a better place to start (and doesn't cost an arm and a leg). I'm considering an elite membership- would you guys also suggest any of those for VAP?



Thanks



-Dion



I would recommend becoming an Elite member of FIO. There's so many way to benefit as far as learning this business. The absolute best deal available in trading by far. My only regret is not getting involved in a big way sooner. I personally have not used Gomi but I would absolutely say it's the best way to go as far as volume profile from a cost point of view with an Elite membership. A smart step in keeping your costs under control for this business.

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Yeah that's Troy. He is an ex Microsoft guy high level computer science engineer turned trader so he made his own tools because he could. Basically a volume profile guy but also has Time Price Opportunity market profile tools too and tools for enhancing market internals as well as order flow. His tools would help IMHO. But you could obtain similar tools with FIO Elite membership here for a lot less money but maybe not as complete tech support should you need it as Troy would offer as well as updates in line with software updates say from NinjaTrader.

The issues I would say in using derivative of OHLC indicators like you mentioned as I found is they were all created back in the day over 30 years ago for large time frames for example daily. We have come a long way with both tech and trading info and knowledge. I think you could replace those with market internals and after you climb the learning curve be better off. Like NY TICK, ADD advance declines and ADDSP, VIX maybe the TRIN on just equities not made from ETF's too. I totally love the 52 week Total Stock market New Highs New Lows which I get from IQFeed, add all together from each different stock market part like NYSE NASDAQ etc etc and plot it.

IMHO increase your time frame. 1 min is good for the TICK. Not sure if for ES. Are you familiar with volume bars? On ES maybe try 15,000-20,000 volume bars help you see the overnight compressed too for the over night high and low (ONH ONL) fade trade.

Ron

Edit: oops forgot a zero at end of 15,000...


Is there a way of creating the TRIN without the ETFs? I heard that the ETF messed the TRIN.


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Is there a way of creating the TRIN without the ETFs? I heard that the ETF messed the TRIN.


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I want say IQFEED/Kinetick has a TRIN like this already. I found it once on there site. Just do a search for TRIN and it should be somewhere in the results.

I can post it later during the week here for you.

What data do you use?

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I want say IQFEED/Kinetick has a TRIN like this already. I found it once on there site. Just do a search for TRIN and it should be somewhere in the results.

I can post it later during the week here for you.

What data do you use?

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I currently use my broker's data. Im with AMP futures, i think they use CQG.


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Any recommendations? Should I subscribe to iq/kinetic? Change broker?

Just saying in case you are unaware. Don't subscribe to Kinetick, unless you do use Ninjatrader, as you don't have it listed as one of your platforms.
Kinetick is a discounted version of DTN IQFeed for the Ninjatrader platform only.
IQFeed is for pretty much any other platform that accepts an independant data feed.

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nb10071981
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I have been searching for a mentor as well, but don't know where to start. The method that makes the most sense to me as far as market analysis goes is volume/market profiling. I've read James Daltons "mind over markets" and continue to read it from front to finish, always picking up something new each time. Any suggestions on how to go about finding a chat room or mentor would be greatly appreciated.

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 ballybunion 
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You may want to take a look at Market Profile Trading Academy (MPTA). Josh Shuler primarily runs the daily site via a Slack channel. Good guy and a Dalton student who works with a lot of beginners trying to develop and improve their profiling techniques. Feel free to PM if you would like more info.

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