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So, we are going to get another crack at Brexit. Yay.

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Honestly, I think this is very unfair to the people of the UK. They decided to leave, they were told that it was up to them, that if they voted yes, then that's what would happen. Now, it's up to parliament or the best lobbyists to decide what will happen and when. The whole thing makes me kind of sad, to be honest.

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So, we are going to get another crack at Brexit. Yay.

Nope the politicians will.

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Honestly, I think this is very unfair to the people of the UK. They decided to leave, they were told that it was up to them, that if they voted yes, then that's what would happen. Now, it's up to parliament or the best lobbyists to decide what will happen and when. The whole thing makes me kind of sad, to be honest.

People voted for a lot of different things under the heading of "Brexit," mostly for more money for social services, better jobs and a better standard of living. Are they really going to get that, or were they duped?

The worst problem with the EU isn't the union, but the Euro, and the UK was already outside that.

On the other hand, Britain's absence just might help shift the EU balance of power away from neo-liberal ideology, which would certainly help the Euro countries.

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jtrade seems to think this is part of the master plan...

What are your views, is the fact that the UK Parliament is able to have a say on Brexit a good thing?

Please allow me to translate for you all :

Mother Theresa : "Brexit means Brexit !"

Translation : "If any of you morons had been listening, you would know that I've been against Brexit from the start and have no intention of allowing it. Being a smart politician, I have to make it look as though I wished to honour the ridiculous and unnecessary Referendum, but was stymied by the courts and those nasty hedge fund managers. Now, everyone, get with the program, 'cos I'm in charge..."

Capisce... ?

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The worst problem with the EU isn't the union, but the Euro, and the UK was already outside that.

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Imho, the worst problem with the EU has been the push to move from an Economic union towards a Political one.

The Euro is a serious structural issue that has benefited Germany, ie. the solutions reduce that benefit... a very difficult Catch 22 (George Soros writes most eloquently and sensibly about this).

Anyway, the UK's Brexit vote will have very positive long-term benefits for the EU as a whole, even though as I think everyone has finally grasped, I do not think Brexit will happen.

Juncker and Tusk will be gone before too long, then things may start to improve....

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And what about this Italian election coming up in December?

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And what about this Italian election coming up in December?

That should go in a different thread

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Buongiorno

Imho, the worst problem with the EU has been the push to move from an Economic union towards a Political one.

The Euro is a serious structural issue that has benefited Germany, ie. the solutions reduce that benefit... a very difficult Catch 22 (George Soros writes most eloquently and sensibly about this).

Anyway, the UK's Brexit vote will have very positive long-term benefits for the EU as a whole, even though as I think everyone has finally grasped, I do not think Brexit will happen.

Juncker and Tusk will be gone before too long, then things may start to improve....

I agree with the rest, but still think the Euro is the biggest problem, and the one contributing most to citizens' dissatisfaction - though certainly the EU also has structural political problems, ie, a democracy deficit.

Interesting that Stieglitz in his book on the Euro essentially agrees with Soros, though he proposes Germany exit the Euro rather than the EU, and proposes other solutions as well.
I fear they will just keep muddling along, with no one doing as well as they should, and Greece remaining devastated.

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as I think everyone has finally grasped, I do not think Brexit will happen.


I appreciate from your posts that you're serious about this perspective rather than joking, but like most people in the UK, I can't really relate to it at all.

It's not just that I disagree totally (though I do): it's that I literally can't understand, on any level, how people can come to imagine that this is a possible outcome.

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