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Old July 11th, 2016, 04:48 PM   #351 (permalink)
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Theresa May promises to make Brexit Ďa successí

Theresa May will on Wednesday become Britainís prime minister promising to make a success of Brexit after she completed a dramatic rout of the rival Conservatives who led the campaign to take Britain out of the EU.

Mrs May, the 59-year-old home secretary, was part of the campaign to keep Britain in the EU, but now finds herself picking up the pieces after the last remaining pro-Brexit Tory leadership candidate threw in the towel.


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Old July 12th, 2016, 10:48 AM   #352 (permalink)
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Theresa May will on Wednesday become Britainís prime minister promising to make a success of Brexit after she completed a dramatic rout of the rival Conservatives who led the campaign to take Britain out of the EU.

Mrs May, the 59-year-old home secretary, was part of the campaign to keep Britain in the EU, but now finds herself picking up the pieces after the last remaining pro-Brexit Tory leadership candidate threw in the towel.


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Not a promising start at all sadly, she definitely wouldnt get my vote thats for sure. I think we would be better off having a new vote for a PM. Although considering what we have there's not much choice and few are willing to put their career on the line to make Brexit a success. We need someone with balls who will do what is needed, now we're ending up with a PM who's not only remain but has little to no interest for our benefit what so ever. Her vote history definitely doesnt impress me at all.

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Old July 12th, 2016, 11:17 AM   #353 (permalink)
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Not a promising start at all sadly, she definitely wouldnt get my vote thats for sure. I think we would be better off having a new vote for a PM. Although considering what we have there's not much choice and few are willing to put their career on the line to make Brexit a success. We need someone with balls who will do what is needed, now we're ending up with a PM who's not only remain but has little to no interest for our benefit what so ever. Her vote history definitely doesnt impress me at all.

May seems to have just voted with the whip? Exactly as any senior member would do, just vote with the party line.

Voting Record — Theresa May MP, Maidenhead (10426) — The Public Whip

Where do you see the "little or no interest in our benefit what so ever"? I'm not challenging your view, just curious to see where your drawing your conclusion from?

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Old July 12th, 2016, 12:17 PM   #354 (permalink)
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May seems to have just voted with the whip? Exactly as any senior member would do, just vote with the party line.

Voting Record ó Theresa May MP, Maidenhead (10426) ó The Public Whip

Where do you see the "little or no interest in our benefit what so ever"? I'm not challenging your view, just curious to see where your drawing your conclusion from?

https://www.theyworkforyou.com/mp/10426/theresa_may/maidenhead/votes - is another site I got the voting history from

My conclusion is drawn from all her voting history, like trading there is a trend, and this isn't exactly great but then it does depend on your personal view and stand.

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Old July 12th, 2016, 12:32 PM   #355 (permalink)
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https://www.theyworkforyou.com/mp/10426/theresa_may/maidenhead/votes - is another site I got the voting history from

My conclusion is drawn from all her voting history, like trading there is a trend, and this isn't exactly great but then it does depend on your personal view and stand.

Fair enough, just her vote was seemingly extremely correlated with her party majority view so the Conservative party itself is the problem? Not many would disagree, even the Tories recently Of course you don't get promoted if you don't obey the whip and the senior MPs work with the whip to ensure conformity in the juniors.

From theyworkforyou "Theresa May has never rebelled against their party in the current parliament. Find out more." which just links back to Voting Record — Theresa May MP, Maidenhead (10426) — The Public Whip

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Old July 12th, 2016, 05:42 PM   #356 (permalink)
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Fair enough, just her vote was seemingly extremely correlated with her party majority view so the Conservative party itself is the problem? Not many would disagree, even the Tories recently Of course you don't get promoted if you don't obey the whip and the senior MPs work with the whip to ensure conformity in the juniors.

From theyworkforyou "Theresa May has never rebelled against their party in the current parliament. Find out more." which just links back to Voting Record ó Theresa May MP, Maidenhead (10426) ó The Public Whip

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I think thats the sad thing about all of this politics stuff, as if we're always agreeing on everything. I don't particular think it's necessary and perhaps even think it can be counter productive at times. We'll have to watch this space to see how all of this turns out, best of luck to her and the huge responsibility she's taken upon herself. I've got to give her credit for the willingness to fill those shoes. I'm not really keen on any party as all are pretty crap to be honest, not impressed in the slightest. Neither am I really into politics, but don't consider ignorance bliss either. Referendums should be the new way of democracy, at least it would feel like a real democracy.

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Old July 12th, 2016, 11:25 PM   #357 (permalink)
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Old July 13th, 2016, 09:10 AM   #358 (permalink)
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Referendums should be the new way of democracy, at least it would feel like a real democracy.

Well, it might feel that way, but it isn't actually unless people know what the referendum truly means and make reasonably rational decisions based on it, and if the implementation of the result follows their specific wishes.

The EU referendum is a great example - as if we needed another - of so-called 'elites' manipulating and lying to the disaffected in order to get them to vote against their own self-interest.

The Conservatives now have carte blanche to rewrite most of the UK rules and regulations regarding business, labor, environment, immigration, human rights, and much else - which is certainly not what they were elected to do.

I suspect the 'ordinary' people who voted out because they feel they've been left behind will end up feeling that the EU rules were useful protection against a majority conservative government, especially with the power to reshape the country it now has.

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Old July 13th, 2016, 09:47 AM   #359 (permalink)
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Well, it might feel that way, but it isn't actually unless people know what the referendum truly means and make reasonably rational decisions based on it, and if the implementation of the result follows their specific wishes.

The EU referendum is a great example - as if we needed another - of so-called 'elites' manipulating and lying to the disaffected in order to get them to vote against their own self-interest.

The Conservatives now have carte blanche to rewrite most of the UK rules and regulations regarding business, labor, environment, immigration, human rights, and much else - which is certainly not what they were elected to do.

I suspect the 'ordinary' people who voted out because they feel they've been left behind will end up feeling that the EU rules were useful protection against a majority conservative government, especially with the power to reshape the country it now has.

I'm not too sure they would think that as the leave individuals I know come from a wide diverse range on backgrounds/professions. However at least even though the Cons have that responsibility to do that, if change need to be made that can be done at some point, which seemed impossible or nearly impossible within the EU. I'm not expecting the coming few years ahead to be smooth sailing, so we'll have to wait and see how it all plays out.

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UK opens 'very fruitful' trade talks with Canada, says minister


Britain opened "very fruitful" trade talks with Canada on Friday, International Trade Secretary Liam Fox told the Sunday Times newspaper as he prepares to renegotiate Britain's commercial ties following its vote last month to leave the European Union.

In limited extracts of his interview, Fox said he would soon travel to the United States to ensure that Britain was not at the back of the queue in trade talks as President Barack Obama had suggested before the June 23 vote.

He said was "scoping" about a dozen free trade deals outside the EU to be ready for when Britain leaves, some with countries that had indicated they wanted a quick deal and others with some of the world's major economies.

"We can make Britain a beacon for open trade," he told the paper. "We have already had a number of countries saying 'we'd love to do a trade deal with the world's fifth-biggest economy without having to deal with the other 27 members of the EU.'"

The European Commission negotiates trade deals on behalf of its member states, meaning Britain has not had to forge its own deals since it joined the bloc in 1973.


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