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There is no point in getting to a tit-for-tat, we all just get older and not wiser discussion and we know that. As Mandela is quoted for, the more informed you are the less arrogant and aggressive you are. yadda yadda.
Your point of concern on not pushing it is noted and thank you but its fine. I had a slight burn out in my early 20s when the PTSD fairy caught up with me a year after weeks spent pulling some friends out of Rwanda in 1994. This experience does make me deeply appreciate the reason the EEC originated in the first place of course and I know more about the sharp-end of elite manipulation than you might imagine from this.
Since then I know to take care. I've only ever needed 2-4 hours plus a Saturday morning crash. My mammy was the same so I have more leisure hours than it would seem.
My net asset value is fine and future is not bleak. My only bleakness is when my girlfriend cooks boring arepa for breakfast.
I'm a trader like you, and I'm sure we have both already and will continue to make a killing on Brexit. Inspirational and tasteless "Inglorious Basterds scalper" pic
I did my research in person (no important opinion should be formed via the Inter-vine) speaking with two senior European "un-elected elites" I happen to have access to plus a couple of Brussels EU lawyers and a translator friend. Its surprising how people want to catch up when they hear you up and moved to South America
Again, your description of the EU on many points is irreconcilable with whats in my head. I refer you to the cat pushing a watermelon out of the lake. Were not going to agree.
I was a UK resident but ROI bread and the various Daves, Steves, Pauls, Sandys, Karens I know have indeed made their decision. So all my O-level educated market town & farm friends did the opposite of my heartfelt recommendation. That is a bit strange for me but I'm not doing the 'A few good men' speech. Not much anyway.
I asked and to a one they put the paper in the box on a "feeling" when almost all of their facts were wrong or grossly distorted and worse they even sort of knew this?
That "feeling" brought to them not exclusively but too significantly via fMRI influenced campaigning on the Leave side is my own "feeling". Of course the cultivated old school psych skills of the Sun/Mail etc. also. Those elite and clever FOXs and their new toys.. (borderline connected elite Fox cartoon) but I believe we are seeing the power of a new(ish) political weapon. I have growing industry experience of this stuff.
I believe Brexit leave voters just went short in the same way a novice trader does, sure they are right this time. It may not kill the account but was a bad move and now we have to trade out. I could have done without the next couple of years living 'interesting times' as the Chinese would say. I have a different slant on democracy and defending the defenseless but that is even more off topic.
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Enjoying the discussion so far and learning a lot. One of the few observations I've made about the online trading community at large (beyond this site) is what I perceive to be a general denial that racism often plays an influential role in political and economic outcomes.
Firstly, my advice is, never use social media to get facts. Sites like FB are very prone to manipulating posts to make them look like real news to the untrained eye.
Secondly, this specific FB page in particular is clearly serving some agenda of some sort
It's purporting to be some sort of official page because of the 'verified' symbol next to its name: the symbol is fake
It's purporting to report the news 'Straight from the horse's mouth', to make the statement look like it's official-sounding
It claims ' Listen to this British man brazenly admit that the reason he and millions of Brits voted to leave the European Union is ...'. The opinion of one man reflects the opinion of millions? Says who?
The video purports to be from Channel 4 News, just because someone overlaid a "Channel 4 News" banner on it. It's clearly not coming from Channel 4
I recommend news are collected from reputable channels. As I said FB or the like are way too prone to prey on the gullible.
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This last bit made me think: it's true that the Leave camp played the 'having the cake and eating it too' like a trombone. "Hey, we can keep trading with the EU and have all this other fantastic trade agreements" was one of their mottos.
But it just occurred to me that they may have counted their chickens before they're hatched. I don't believe the EU would stand for an ex-member state wanting to do business as usual, as if nothing happened with them. That would send a huge signal that staying in the EU is pointless. So I think they'll try and make the situation for Britain as tough as they can.
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It's a tough one - on one hand the petition for a 2nd referendum has gained huge momentum (nearly 3.2 M signatures at the time of writing and counting) and there are calls for the Parliament to by-pass the referendum. The only way I think this would even get a chance for serious consideration would be if the signatures exceed the number of people who voted for 'Remain'. Otherwise one should logically assume that it's really just all the people who voted to remain that are trying to get a second stab at it.
On the other hand, what signal would that send to the world about democracy in the UK?
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