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Conspiracy theory!? Oh no -please God no. Don't tar & feather me with that brush! 1'll never be taken seriously again! I'll have no friends , no-one will love me, and I won't be able to get a job! I'll die alone & cold & miserable in a 1 room shack in East Grimstead without a penny to my name or a word of sympathy for my soul...

Coincidence ? Maybe. I tend to think coincidences are less likely when gargantuan vested interests are at stake.

As a starting reference for those who are unfamiliar with the lengths to which governments (in this case European) and huge vested interests (in this case NATO) will go - & have repeatedly gone to achieve their aims - I recommend some quick research on Operation Gladio & Gladio-B. Allan Francovich' s documentary series is well done (ironically for the BBC-back in the day when it still pursued investigative journalism) & there are plenty of books on the subject. w-pedia would have us believe that this is a phenomena from the past. I wish that were so, but the evidence suggests otherwise..

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I'm familiar with Gladio and similar apparatuses. So what are you saying, Jo Cox's murder was orchestrated?

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I'll die alone & cold & miserable in a 1 room shack in East Grimstead without a penny to my name or a word of sympathy for my soul...

East Grimstead near Salisbury and Downton? its quite nice! Though I see the advantage of being close to the New Forest should the MiB call (Men in Brown, brown shoes).

I must admit when poor Jo Cox was attacked that it was a plot came to mind immediately however.. I know two members of the 'shadowy' European Round Table of Industrialists and they are not credible as evil board members so I'm torn.

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LOL! @Rory - very good. Although what Euston bear fails to point out is that Paddington has a thriving business selling images of himself to countries all around the globe without the need for any trade treaties. He stopped his exports to Europe (apart from Switzerland & Norway) because it became cost prohibitive due to regulations stating that he had to print new packaging in large bold neon font with the words : "bear inside", & that he would have to change the fur colour to black & place spectacle markings around the eyesi to be more representative of his native species, even though he himself never wears spectacles. Paddington considered chaining himself to the railings in front of parliament &going on hunger strike, but he couldn't find the key to the padlock & was reliably informed that "that lot in there" -referring to the house of commons- "wouldn't be able to do anything anyway", & since his stomach was rumbling he decided the best course of action would be to give up on europe until the regulations were more amenable & head home for a marmalade sandwich.

His business has been thriving ever since. In fact he can't make enough of himself. He's particularly loved in his home country of Peru & now has the money to pay regular visits to his friends & family & invite them over to London for a big party, although the party may have to wait as he's just received a large tax bill for the use of a restricted form of paper in his packaging, from an EU agency that he's tried to pronounce, but the name is so long he falls asleep before he finishes. Well, he has been working long hours & as he likes to say - "Its hard work being in business", just before he takes another well-deserved nap.

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re: sky & the John Oliver prog - I'm not one for censorship - but l suppose its good to see someone step in & do something about the one-sided coverage. As they said -if you're gonna have fun & poke holes that's fine ~ but do it to both sides, or come clean & declare your agenda up front.

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I'm familiar with Gladio and similar apparatuses. So what are you saying, Jo Cox's murder was orchestrated?

To paraphrase Urquhart - you might say that - I couldn't possibly comment.

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To paraphrase Urquhart - you might say that - I couldn't possibly comment.

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Never seen that version, but I loved Underwood. Anyway, !

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re: sky & the John Oliver prog - I'm not one for censorship - but l suppose its good to see someone step in & do something about the one-sided coverage. As they said -if you're gonna have fun & poke holes that's fine ~ but do it to both sides, or come clean & declare your agenda up front.

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Well I think the very first thing John Oliver did was declare his agenda and as his broadcast would sway many to stay, I see problems in the overall competence of this conspiracy.

Boris Johnson is a blonde Turk (actually is) a great storyteller (massive 'poetic licence'/liar) and doubtless an agent of Ergodan. Johnson is great-grandson of Ali Kemal Bey, a liberal Circassian-Turkish journalist and the interior minister in the government of Damat Ferid Pasha, Grand Vizier of the Ottoman Empire.

Anyone who worked for an actual Grand Visier!! is at the very least suspicious methinks?

I met his sister Rachel once, she was nice. I feel Boris sees campaigning for exit as a part of his upward trajectory. Do you think it strange he 'lost' the London mayor re-election to a Muslim? Or is Turkey consolidating control?

Of course I'm kidding (Boris is evil, his sister said so).

Also I just released/remembered Euston bear comes from 'the forests of darkest Colombia!!' brilliant!

Sorry for derailing the thread @xplorer I'll be good now.

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I feel Boris sees campaigning for exit as a part of his upward trajectory. Do you think it strange he 'lost' the London mayor re-election to a Muslim? Or is Turkey consolidating control?

I agree there's a decent probability that Boris is just using this campaign as a stepping stone over his ol' mate Dave.
On the mayoral election - I've been out of London for more than 7 years - as far as I'm aware he didn't (couldn't?) stand...

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German industry leader playing down the politicians threats

Are they getting scared that the rhetoric has gone too far..?

EU referendum: Trade curbs 'foolish' if UK votes Leave, says German industry - BBC News

Mr Kerber, Head of the BDI which represents German industry:
"...imposing protectionist measures between our two countries - or between the two political centres, the European Union on the one hand and the UK on the other - would be a very, very foolish thing in the 21st Century,"

In terms of jobs, recent research shows
the number of EU jobs directly tied to exports to the UK - 5.5m - which has apparently risen 10% between 2011 and 2014.
the number of UK jobs directly tied to exports to the EU - between 3.5 and 3.9m - which has fallen 5%

https://d3n8a8pro7vhmx.cloudfront.net/voteleave/pages/271/attachments/original/1466581405/1603-354_(1).pdf?1466581405

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To paraphrase Urquhart - you might say that - I couldn't possibly comment.

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maybe its not so crazy when you consider French politician Francois Asselineau predicted the assassination one week before & strongly advised the use of body guards.

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