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Day Trading Indicators or Systems for Bull or Bear Trends???

Are there any indicators or systems that people use to determine if a trend is forming on an intraday chart for day trading?

I trade /ES, /CL, /GC every day, and what I see whenever there is a bull or bear trend all day is that the market becomes overbought or oversold, and it begins to oscillate the other way. As it begins to retrace though, it fakes out, and the market continues the trend.

I'm missing out on ton of money in the trend trades. I make great money scalping futures otherwise for a prop fund, but otherwise I could increase my potential with this trend day trading indicator/s or system.

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Are there any indicators or systems that people use to determine if a trend is forming on an intraday chart for day trading?

I trade /ES, /CL, /GC every day, and what I see whenever there is a bull or bear trend all day is that the market becomes overbought or oversold, and it begins to oscillate the other way. As it begins to retrace though, it fakes out, and the market continues the trend.

I'm missing out on ton of money in the trend trades. I make great money scalping futures otherwise for a prop fund, but otherwise I could increase my potential with this trend day trading indicator/s or system.

Thanks in advance.

I don't think I get your post. You profile says you are an advanced futures trader and you state you work for a prop fund - yet you lack some basic understanding of trend?

There must be something I am missing here...

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I scalp a few ticks on trend reversals multiple trades each day for them. It keeps my quota going, but how about holding onto the trends.

For instance if the day runs up 40 points on the ES, and all it does is stair case all the way up and close at the high, I never get in a reversal scalp because momentum is not sidewinding like on ordinary days. I need to know if the trend will keep momentum in one direction. What indicator/s or system gives me those cues or allows to take advantage of the whole hockey stick trend on the day?


And Mike, I will look into the link you posted. Thanks, Big Dawg.

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I scalp a few ticks on trend reversals multiple trades each day for them. It keeps my quota going, but how about holding onto the trends.

For instance if the day runs up 40 points on the ES, and all it does is stair case all the way up and close at the high, I never get in a reversal scalp because momentum is not sidewinding like on ordinary days. I need to know if the trend will keep momentum in one direction. What indicator/s or system gives me those cues or allows to take advantage of the whole hockey stick trend on the day?


And Mike, I will look into the link you posted. Thanks, Big Dawg.

This is Pandora's box. I have no idea why you would be looking for a reversal scalp in a huge bull run like that. Why wouldn't you be trading with trend in the first place? The market will trend until it doesn't.

I just don't see how you can consider yourself an 'advanced' futures trader. Sorry, but I am baffled here!?

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There is no right or wrong way. Do what makes you comfy.

Super traders will and might hold and add scales on any day or trend day.

Likewise a scalper taking few points at a time might make more than what a super trader achieved with lot lesser risk.

However the big problem starts coming in when a scalper tries to hold. .likewise when a longer term trader tries to scalp.

It's an individual style. Only a trader knows he/she is right or wrong as he..she... accounts for their p/l

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This last post and the forum owner's post was useful traders. Thanks

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This is Pandora's box. I have no idea why you would be looking for a reversal scalp in a huge bull run like that. Why wouldn't you be trading with trend in the first place? The market will trend until it doesn't.

I just don't see how you can consider yourself an 'advanced' futures trader. Sorry, but I am baffled here!?


Baffled by what? Can you trade a trend in the ES during the day without taking a hit? Is that simple to you, or is it a baffler?

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Baffled by what? Can you trade a trend in the ES during the day without taking a hit? Is that simple to you, or is it a baffler?

I must have misinterpreted what you said about not getting into a reversal scalp. The way I read your post was as if you were chasing a reversal scalp in a bull run, not avoiding a reversal a scalp in a bull run - which upon reading your post again, is probably what you were getting at. Which makes sense.

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