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Most Robust and Profitable Trading Strategies?

Hi all,
What are some of the most Robust and Profitable Trading Strategies that you have come across on TS, NT, and MC platform?

Definition:
"Robust" means that the strategy can be tested over at least 15 years.
"Profitable" means that commission and slippage are added to backtesting

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In related news, "I only want to make $50 a day, which strategy do I use?"

Seriously, spend some time reading --- your question just demonstrates you know very little on the subject and haven't really applied yourself to learning.

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In related news, "I only want to make $50 a day, which strategy do I use?"

Seriously, spend some time reading --- your question just demonstrates you know very little on the subject and haven't really applied yourself to learning.

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Based on his @fiverr name he may only want to make $5/day.

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Based on his @fiverr name he may only want to make $5/day.

A good website, fiverr.

In all seriousness, and with intentions of trying to help, just start watching the webinars. There are over 200, many of them are on automated trading.

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A good website, fiverr.

In all seriousness, and with intentions of trying to help, just start watching the webinars. There are over 200, many of them are on automated trading.

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There are over 200 videos on automated trading, let's assume 45 minutes per video. This would make 150 hours... Would it not be more efficient to ask?

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Let's me rephrase my question. I have reviewed more than 100 TS strategies ,and most of them are a waste of time. So far I came across only two profitable strategies on TS that meet my criteria of robustness and profitable. They are Moon ES and Eagle ES. I would like to ask the collective knowledge on this forum whether there are more strategies out there that are comparable to these two strategies.

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The most robust and profitable trading strategies are ones no one will share. This is necessarily true because of they really work they are too busy making money for themselves or their institutions. Obviously there are ways to develop your own, which as @Big Mike said look at the webinars and read loads of books. I have been reading at least 2 trading/ financial books a month for years and yes some of the material is tedious and it does get repetitive. But if I can pull out 1 golden nugget per book or per webinar it was worth it. Some books / webinars have 0 nuggets but at least you get to practice using your BS filter. Either way its beneficial.

On a side note i have probably spent on the order of thousands of hours testing and developing systems at this point. if you are not willing to spend a few hundred to get the basics its definitely not worth it.

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The most robust and profitable trading strategies are ones no one will share. This is necessarily true because of they really work they are too busy making money for themselves or their institutions. Obviously there are ways to develop your own, which as @Big Mike said look at the webinars and read loads of books. I have been reading at least 2 trading/ financial books a month for years and yes some of the material is tedious and it does get repetitive. But if I can pull out 1 golden nugget per book or per webinar it was worth it. Some books / webinars have 0 nuggets but at least you get to practice using your BS filter. Either way its beneficial.

On a side note i have probably spent on the order of thousands of hours testing and developing systems at this point. if you are not willing to spend a few hundred to get the basics its definitely not worth it.

Can you share on a high level, where you are after that many years of effort ?
Number of systems ?
% good/bad trades ?
can you live of your systems ?

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Can you share on a high level, where you are after that many years of effort ?
Number of systems ?
% good/bad trades ?
can you live of your systems ?

Well on a high level I am currently employed as a Quantitative Strategist at a private hedge fund in Asia. I have developed several models and strategies employed on global futures portfolios, only a very few on equities. Although I may be up for a promotion to lead a new team, fingers crossed. So I am not sure if I am living off of my systems, but I am supporting myself and my wife off of my career in algorithmic strategy development. I have to put at shout out to BMT as it did always find it helpful here and still enjoy it.

I can not share my companies information on specifics of number of trading strategies etc.

So I am going to put a hypothetical out there if i was a retailer using R / python and some execution platform from IB or a multicharts/ninja . I could probably implement a set of 3-4 profitable strategies running over a portfolio of 20 or so USA based futures in about 6 months. 1 year or so to expand to other global futures exchanges. These would be longer term systems as I would not have the infrastructure to exploit shorter term inefficiencies.

The portfolio of systems would be a mix of different types, so you would have on average a % of win/losers around 50%. I personally like to blend the return distributions of the systems that are placed in a portfolio. This will reduce both negative and positive skew of returns of all the systems. I prefer having Positive skewed returns vs negative though, this is assuming we are talking only about profitable systems.

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