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There are over 200 videos on automated trading, let's assume 45 minutes per video. This would make 150 hours... Would it not be more efficient to ask?

Respectfully, you're missing the point.

Watching the videos would enable you to be able to formulate appropriate questions to ask (as well as probably answering some of them), which at the moment you're not really able to do: which are the most robust and profitable trading strategies isn't determined by the platforms from which they're traded, and "robust" and "profitable" don't mean what you thought they mean. That may come across as a bit pedantic (not my intention), but seriously, you'll ask better questions after doing some work than you can now. Avoiding shortcuts really pays.

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Your question is hard to answer. It depends on if you are a day- or swingtrader and how much money you are willing/ able to risk.
You have to study a lot of Trading books, then you select or develop a system and try it out, first in simulation thereafter in realtime.
It may take years before you will be fit to trade. Hundreds of screenhours are required.
If you do not want that or do not have time for it, you can have a look at Futures Truth Company | Educating Stock and Commodity ... and select a tested system.

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There are over 200 videos on automated trading, let's assume 45 minutes per video. This would make 150 hours... Would it not be more efficient to ask?

What you are asking is very similar to going into a a group of neurosurgeons and asking:

"What's the best technique to perform a brain surgery on my friend who has constant headaches? I want to try fixing his problem tomorrow."

Would you expect a simple and straightforward answer from those surgeons? Maybe not. Trading is not very different from that. It's just not an "accredited profession", with school degrees and such. But that doesn't mean it won't take an equally (or even bigger) effort to be knowledgeable and profitable.

If you really don't have the time do study, practice and learn how to be a profitable trader, maybe your best option would be to not even try at all and stick with already takes all your time and gives you your current money.

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More systems here

There are more systems for you to check out here on this website Automated Trading System for Stocks, Futures, and Forex
If those don't meet your requirements then its time to be a little more realistic and expect to come up with your own strategies. My approach right now is to run a system or two from the site I mentioned while I take a couple months create my own. Good Luck.

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Hi all,
What are some of the most Robust and Profitable Trading Strategies that you have come across on TS, NT, and MC platform?

Definition:
"Robust" means that the strategy can be tested over at least 15 years.
"Profitable" means that commission and slippage are added to backtesting

In line with previous answers, I personnaly spent thousands of hours to learn how to trade (and still learning)
Now, although there is not a single answer and no shortcuts, here's my view to your question:
1. I don't believe a single system will ever be robust enough (or at least I stopped searching for it long time ago)
2. Very solid results (aka robust/profitable) can be achieved under the following conditions:
- Running multiple algos with negative correlations
- Running these algos on a number of different instruments
- Tracking market conditions to trade only when favorable
- The core logic of the algo can/should be fairly simple

Good luck

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Hi all,
What are some of the most Robust and Profitable Trading Strategies that you have come across on TS, NT, and MC platform?

Definition:
"Robust" means that the strategy can be tested over at least 15 years.
"Profitable" means that commission and slippage are added to backtesting

I dont believe "a" trading system works for anyone over a long time period ie months and months.I know and have spoken with one automated trader who uses TradeStation, John Clayburg. I opened an account over at Infinity Futures with $70k for trading on one of his "best systems" about 4 or 5 years ago. closed the account and took my $33k about 4 months later....lol...

Go ask @kevinkdog Kevin Davey here on FIO (yes me too....I typed BMT first...lol) in his Ask Me Anything thread https://futures.io/vendors-product-reviews/26335-kj-trading-systems-kevin-davey-ask-me-anything-ask-me-anything.html

https://futures.io/trading_member/30476-kevinkdog.html

These guys are running many many charts and strategies at once and has taken them years to get to where they are namely profitable. As 4 or 5 strategies are in losses another 3 or 4 are in profit etc. Cost me a bunch of cash to learn that simple fact. John Clayburg (a veterinarian by trade) also has tens and tens of charts/strategies running at the same time to create profit and they must always to some degree of another keep being worked/tweeked.

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Your question is hard to answer. It depends on if you are a day- or swingtrader and how much money you are willing/ able to risk.
You have to study a lot of Trading books, then you select or develop a system and try it out, first in simulation thereafter in realtime.
It may take years before you will be fit to trade. Hundreds of screenhours are required.
If you do not want that or do not have time for it, you can have a look at Futures Truth Company | Educating Stock and Commodity ... and select a tested system.

Many thanks, this is similar to what I am looking for.

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What you are asking is very similar to going into a a group of neurosurgeons and asking:

"What's the best technique to perform a brain surgery on my friend who has constant headaches? I want to try fixing his problem tomorrow."
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Respectfully, this is not what I was asking for. I want to go to a group of neurosurgeons and I want to know the top 5 best surgeons. This is like asking for the best 5 most robust and profitable trading strategies.

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I dont believe "a" trading system works for anyone over a long time period ie months and months.I know and have spoken with one automated trader who uses TradeStation, John Clayburg. I opened an account over at Infinity Futures with $70k for trading on one of his "best systems" about 4 or 5 years ago. closed the account and took my $33k about 4 months later....lol...

Go ask @kevinkdog Kevin Davey here on FIO (yes me too....I typed BMT first...lol) in his Ask Me Anything thread https://futures.io/vendors-product-reviews/26335-kj-trading-systems-kevin-davey-ask-me-anything-ask-me-anything.html

https://futures.io/trading_member/30476-kevinkdog.html

These guys are running many many charts and strategies at once and has taken them years to get to where they are namely profitable. As 4 or 5 strategies are in losses another 3 or 4 are in profit etc. Cost me a bunch of cash to learn that simple fact. John Clayburg (a veterinarian by trade) also has tens and tens of charts/strategies running at the same time to create profit and they must always to some degree of another keep being worked/tweeked.

Ron

Ron, I am sorry to hear about your loss. I have reviewed WorldCupChampionships.com in the past. In my opinion, it is gambling and not trading. All their rankings are based on net return, without any considerations for drawdown. I would rather pick a trading system with 35% gain and 15% drawdown vs. a trading system with 164% gain with 80% drawdown.

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There are more systems for you to check out here on this website Automated Trading System for Stocks, Futures, and Forex
If those don't meet your requirements then its time to be a little more realistic and expect to come up with your own strategies. My approach right now is to run a system or two from the site I mentioned while I take a couple months create my own. Good Luck.

Thanks for the link. I have checked these guys out several years back and was not so impressed with their backtesting results. They don't include slippage or commission in their backtesting; hence, it increases the profitability of their results. Even then, their Net Profit vs Max Drawdown ratio is not very impressive.

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