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Getting Started Trading with 1,000.00 Using Ninja Trader

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@Lady you completely missed the point. You cannot, under any real circumstance, trade futures with a $1000 account. Period, the end.

Starting with $1000 is fine. Go swing stocks. But futures? Ridiculous. Beyond ridiculous. Criminal is more like it.

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And anyone encouraging $1000 futures is just encouraging someone to learn terrible behaviors and trading styles that will take them twice the time to unlearn.

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@Lady you completely missed the point. You cannot, under any real circumstance, trade futures with a $1000 account. Period, the end.

Starting with $1000 is fine. Go swing stocks. But futures? Ridiculous. Beyond ridiculous. Criminal is more like it.

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I'll stop cuddling him. Then tell him a number. Several numbers. And $30k is not close to realistic out of the gate.

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I'll stop cuddling him.

Your advice was good... just replace futures with swing trading stocks, or possibly forex although that has its own set of issues.

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And anyone encouraging $1000 futures is just encouraging someone to learn terrible behaviors and trading styles that will take them twice the time to unlearn.

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@Big Mike futures..well yes..but don't you think if that is something you want to do and that's all you can afford, that trading cash is more beneficial than sim trading...or not trading? I know when I started I was under funded...but I traded anyway...and blew up my account..then I had time to think..and think a lot while I saved up enough to start trading again. Lessons learned?...oh hell yeah, still learning and glad I did what I did.

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Your advice was good... just replace futures with swing trading stocks, or possibly forex although that has its own set of issues.

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I'm of the school of focusing deeply on a small batch of products. If he has done enough trading and research and knows that index futures are his thing, he should stay with that product or that security. Not jump around different products that require completely different methods or development of cognitive pathways.

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... Then tell him a number. Several numbers. And $30k is not close to realistic out of the gate.

and this

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@Big Mike futures..well yes..but don't you think if that is something you want to do and that's all you can afford, that trading cash is more beneficial than sim trading...or not trading? I know when I started I was under funded...but I traded anyway...and blew up my account..then I had time to think..and think a lot while I saved up enough to start trading again. Lessons learned?...oh hell yeah, still learning and glad I did what I did.

Johnny

Trade cash. Start with $1000 if you have to. But not futures!

Futures is highly leveraged trading. You don't drive a Formula 1 car without first driving a regular car and mastering it.

Start with swing trading stocks. Learn good decision making, research, lower leverage, more time and more forgiving to mistakes. Starting with futures is insane.

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3) Set goals for yourself to reach daily. Make them about how you trade, not how much money you make.
4) Accept responsibility for your actions. Stop looking elsewhere to explain away poor performance.
5) Where to start as a trader? Watch this webinar and read this thread for hundreds of questions and answers.
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No more replies from me on this thread. The guy probably already blew up his account anyway.

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3) Set goals for yourself to reach daily. Make them about how you trade, not how much money you make.
4) Accept responsibility for your actions. Stop looking elsewhere to explain away poor performance.
5) Where to start as a trader? Watch this webinar and read this thread for hundreds of questions and answers.
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I'm of the school of focusing deeply on a small batch of products. If he has done enough trading and research and knows that index futures are his thing, he should stay with that product or that security. Not jump around different products that require completely different methods or development of cognitive pathways.

So swing SPY. You are still missing the point. Leverage and timing. He needs low and slow, as do all beginners.

I'm out.

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3) Set goals for yourself to reach daily. Make them about how you trade, not how much money you make.
4) Accept responsibility for your actions. Stop looking elsewhere to explain away poor performance.
5) Where to start as a trader? Watch this webinar and read this thread for hundreds of questions and answers.
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