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 forrestang 
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Phew..... just finished reading the entire thread. Gonna go back and grab everything to create the chart.


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 Jeff Castille 
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Getting close to "Beta" on the MultiCharts 7 (running Beta 4 / Build 4344 at the moment) port of the indicators used by Perry, focusing currently on:
  • DMPlus_v3a
  • Force_Index_v02
  • JeffsUniversalMovingAverage_v1
  • MASlopeBoxMulti
  • TheAboxForRange
I'm using the stock EMA(5) included in MC7 and haven't bothered with Murray Math lines yet but it's on the TODO (and I've seen it mentioned elsewhere so it may already be "done").

I have to manually calculate atan2() apparently for MASlopeBoxMulti as it's not included in the stock MC7 function list that I've seen. I don't think Perry has been using this indicator recently, but I still find it helpful and worth porting even if we don't end up using it here.

Positioning text has been a pain (even with using GetAppInfo() values) since there may be cases where multiple bars have the same "bartime" value so the screen scrolls, but the text doesn't, so the "Chop!/Trade!/etc." alerts in DMplus_v3a look like they're dancing a little in the header (same goes for the ADX in TheAboxFor Range). Distracting at best, and I'm hoping there's a way to fix this long-term. There's also no direct way to draw a rectangle without drawing individual lines, so for the ADX slope, I'll most likely just live with coloring the border the same color as the text (red/green) rather than purple like on NT.

My force index bars are done differently and I'm working on reconciling why they don't match the NT version exactly (though are reasonably close at times). I'm feeding NT7 and MC7 with IQFeed ("delayed") data in the attached charts for comparison, but I'm sure they don't both start on the same "tick" so won't look exactly alike anyway. It would be helpful if there were a way to synchronize the bar displays, but I'm not going to worry about it for now.

I'm not paying for real-time data yet since I'm no where near close to "live trading" - I'm still trying to figure out how to get my sim/demo IB/TWS account working (sans market data). I think they play nicely with eSignal data, but not sure about IQFeed yet.

-Guy



p.s. I wish MC7 had bold, dashed lines too

Hey Guy,

You don't have to pay for data unless you want to...........some brokers supply data free.......like Amp Futures gives you Zen-Fire free..........it's nice unfiltered data..........just so you know........other brokers might do the same thing.

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Hey Guy,

You don't have to pay for data unless you want to...........some brokers supply data free.......like Amp Futures gives you Zen-Fire free..........it's nice unfiltered data..........just so you know........other brokers might do the same thing.

Jeff

CQG is another free option for people for futs data also. CQG supports continuous contracts, and I've grabbed over a year's worth of tic data as well.

The sub for non account holders is 21 days, so you have to request a new demo password every month, but it's just an option.

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Hey Guy,

You don't have to pay for data unless you want to...........some brokers supply data free.......like Amp Futures gives you Zen-Fire free..........it's nice unfiltered data..........just so you know........other brokers might do the same thing.

Jeff

Thanks Jeff - for better or worse, I'm currently with IB, and as we all know, their R/T data leaves a bit to be desired. Jury is still out whether I bother switching since they have deep coverage security-wise (equities, futures, options, FX, etc.) rather than go with someone a bit more futures-centric. I also like the fact that I can trade using multiple "friends and family" accounts, but I'm sure others offer similar multi-account capabilities (I just haven't bothered checking yet).

At some point though, it all boils down to what I'll end up doing to "make money" vs. play with this or that strategy on this or that platform. My focus over the last year has changed considerably at least, due mostly in part to what I've learned here from BM, you (thanks again!), Perry and others. I don't have unlimited funds, and so after much internal debate, decided to purchase MC7 vs. NT7 to at least focus on a single platform. As a programmer of 25+ years, I was initially drawn to Ninja for it's C# flexibility/extensibility but as Mike as mentioned himself, I'd really rather focus on the trading aspect rather than trying to make Ninja do something "cool and exciting". I may still purchase a license for NT at some point, but for now, I've decided to stay focused on converting/analyzing the 3-5 strategies I have on hand and back/forward test those a few months before ever attempting to go live.

As this isn't my "day job" just yet, and I still have two kids to get through college, this (3-6 hour/day) "hobby" is in constant competition with "life" - my son just graduated from high school last week, so with visiting family and parties now past, I should have more time again to wrap my MC Perry code up. If it's OK with you, "Jeff's CCI" is #2 on my TODO (followed by "Three Set Ups").

Thanks again,
-Guy

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Thanks Jeff - for better or worse, I'm currently with IB, and as we all know, their R/T data leaves a bit to be desired. Jury is still out whether I bother switching since they have deep coverage security-wise (equities, futures, options, FX, etc.) rather than go with someone a bit more futures-centric. I also like the fact that I can trade using multiple "friends and family" accounts, but I'm sure others offer similar multi-account capabilities (I just haven't bothered checking yet).

At some point though, it all boils down to what I'll end up doing to "make money" vs. play with this or that strategy on this or that platform. My focus over the last year has changed considerably at least, due mostly in part to what I've learned here from BM, you (thanks again!), Perry and others. I don't have unlimited funds, and so after much internal debate, decided to purchase MC7 vs. NT7 to at least focus on a single platform. As a programmer of 25+ years, I was initially drawn to Ninja for it's C# flexibility/extensibility but as Mike as mentioned himself, I'd really rather focus on the trading aspect rather than trying to make Ninja do something "cool and exciting". I may still purchase a license for NT at some point, but for now, I've decided to stay focused on converting/analyzing the 3-5 strategies I have on hand and back/forward test those a few months before ever attempting to go live.

As this isn't my "day job" just yet, and I still have two kids to get through college, this (3-6 hour/day) "hobby" is in constant competition with "life" - my son just graduated from high school last week, so with visiting family and parties now past, I should have more time again to wrap my MC Perry code up. If it's OK with you, "Jeff's CCI" is #2 on my TODO (followed by "Three Set Ups").

Thanks again,
-Guy

Just remember that trading is a business and it is important to keep the COST of doing business as low as possible.....especially when you are first starting out. I think you did the right thing by picking a platform and buying the license outright rather than any recurring monthly expenses. ( one and done)

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Thanx Perry for your generosity,

I always want to put a range chart set up side by side with my traditional 5 min chart but not sure how to handle it... I had sim trade your 1st setup.....nice...I will put your 2nd set up later.

bwasi @ +gmt 8

BTW I vote u for Ipad 2 & 3 ;-)

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I suspect that this issue has been overly discussed, but is anyone else having an issue with the JeffsUniversalMovingAverage v1 "repainting" or drawing both a green and red line at a turning point (see screen shots below)? This seems to be an issue only when you set the calculate on bar close = false. Yes, I am using NT 7.......5.

I know that the JUMA can be replaced with something like the EMA Slope color (see screen shot below), but this can, at times, cause different signals if you follow Perry's rules closely.

Has anyone come up with a work around or have any idea how to change the code? I have done a search on futures.io (formerly BMT) and found a few threads where people have asked that the indicator be updated for NT7 and have had similar issues, but as far as I can tell, there has been no reply or fix. I certaintly could be wrong though, so I thought I would ask.

I will not post any indicators on this post as I am not sure if the JUMA is Elite or not, or even offered to futures.io (formerly BMT) members anymore.

Thanks for any input!

@perryg: Would you be willing to present a Webinar here on futures.io (formerly BMT)? I, for one would be very interested. Thanks for everything!

Affliction

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@perryg: Would you be willing to present a Webinar here on futures.io (formerly BMT)? I, for one would be very interested. Thanks for everything!

Many would - I've asked him once or twice already, hopefully we'll have something to look forward to soon Feel free to encourage him!



Mike



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Perry, do you agree people changed or added indicators to you method? or Do you stick with your original setting from beginning? since I found some adding indicators to your method from recent posts, I am confused which one I should pick, the original one or updated one(with adding new indicators)? thanks.

I applied the template in summary, the setting is different from your first post, and there is so many different versions of template, which one is the one you are using? I appreciate if you can post the template.

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I can't say which one is the 'correct' one.... but here is what I wound up getting, as I read this entire thread a few days ago. I believe I had to download, and modify one of them.

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