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The Secret Science of Price and Volume by Timothy Ord: Book Discussion.

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Ok I found it:

Decision Point®: The Ord Oracle -- Tim Ord

March 17, 2010
For 30 to 90 days horizons: Short SPX on 5/13/09 at 883.92.

So much for those "secrets" he divulged in his book and so much for his proprietary Ord software. I think his career is pretty much over. Another market timer bites the dust.

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How can you use the d9 as a surrogate for the McClellan? That's like me using the temperature as a surrogate for my clock.

It is an oscillator. That's all. But what oscillators tell you is something about turning points and momentum, no matter how they are calculated.

The McClellan Oscillator & Summation Index - Technical Analysis Learning - McClellan Financial

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He has a free trial maybe try that

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Thanks. ZTrade101. I found a copy on The Secret Science of Price and Volume: Techniques for Spotting Market Trends, Hot Sectors, and the Best Stocks (Wiley Trading) (9780470138984): Tim Ord: Books. My win/loss after a trading day seems to be better when I trade ES by volume charts (1150, 3500). Beats my using tick charts hands down during volatile periods.
This looks like a good read to better my understanding.

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I read the book. I think there are some valuable information and his book got me more into looking at volume. Volume is key and the chapter wind in your back can help you to have a systematic approach to the market. I tweaked and added a few things and breadth indicators I look at and like ztrade101 I used McClellan Osc. for my swing and momentum trading.

Cunparis is right, he is short the market for a long time and I never understood why he wanted to hold on to his position. In his newsletter he uses many classical indicators with his on periods and parameters settings to find reasons why the market should have been short since last year. I always felt he wanted to be right with his short position.

Nevertheless, the book is great and in his newsletter he didn't stick to his approach that he uses in the book. Like I said he really was trying to be right, a great psychological mistake. The McClellan Osc. and other breadth, sentiment, and volume analysis would have given him better timing and he would have been long and short last year.

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Ord Volume Explanation

Here is an online article describing the Ord Volume concept.
Trading Point and Figure Market Charts and Psychology by Tim Ord |

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