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Why Tick Charts instead of Time Based Charts? or other chart types

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I've been curious about the advantages of tick charts because it seems like a lot of people use them. The "5 Compelling Reasons..." were not compelling to me. I've always used time charts and the way I trade, it's not important whether "amateurs" or "professionals" are involved in the price action, and the example of the pullback being visible on the tick chart but not on the 3-min chart made no sense to me, I could see the pullback on both charts and the trade entry price would be close enough on either chart not to make a difference.

I also don't understand the "volume leads price" concept at all. From analyzing my trades, it looks like most of them are initiated during periods of low volume and by the time I'm taking profit the volume has peaked. This seems to translate to "low volume leads price" for me, but when I hear "volume leads price" I always imagined traders positioning after a strong volume spike which seems to indicated a pullback is coming real soon, so a good part of the move is over.

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My reason for preferring tick charts over time charts is as follows. With tick charts I can easily find a trend during the overnight that will often be in play the whole next day. Whereas price charts (the 1 min for example) is spread out and doesn't show the concentrated form of a tick chart overnight and thus often doesnt show distinct trend lines

I wouldn't look at a 1 min chart for an overnight trend. I draw trend lines on a 5 min chart and a 60 min chart and also make note of the daily chart levels in case there's a really strong move or a strong trending day.

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time based vs. tick chart



The vertical line marks the US open (9.30 am). I am in a different time zone.
I marked the entries on both charts. These ones look easier on the tick chart.
On the tick chart these are perfect 2nd entries.

What is your opinion?

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It depends on trading method, all traders are different, so it is hard to tell which is better. It is not wise to compare them

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What is your opinion?

This is a single data point and no conclusions should or can be drawn from this.

If trend lines are your thing, you will want to see what everyone else is seeing, which are fixed time per bar charts. Trend lines only work because everyone sees the same thing and acts on it (whether you are going with or fading the trend line).

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It depends on trading method, all traders are different, so it is hard to tell which is better. It is not wise to compare them

I thought this thread was created for comparing tick and time charts.

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I thought this thread was created for comparing tick and time charts.

yes, I am talking about time and tick chart too, it depends on personal trading method, there is no good or bad. so it is not wise to compare them.

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I thought this thread was created for comparing tick and time charts.

because each trader is responsible for their own results, an academic discussion of the comparison points and favorite aspects of each, will not happen, as you desired,

remove the reality of the net result of monetary risk management and such a comparison between tick, time, renko, range, modified hybrids and such can occur.

but the objective behind these websites, threads, discussions are essentially associative towards the objective of improvements and refinements, not abstract or academic.

hope that helps...

ok, in laymens terms, tick is better (when you succeed in your trading and risk management), and similarly time based intervals are better (when you succeed in your trading and risk management).

one really important qualifier was added by someone earlier, namely, one need pay attention to what others in the majority use... and that tidbit might be the best comapator to focus upon....

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time intervals is better than any others

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yes, I am talking about time and tick chart too, it depends on personal trading method, there is no good or bad. so it is not wise to compare them.

OK, right. Your chart type should fit to your trading method. Like always in trading, everything is subjective and personal preference. But what else could be the reasons for choosing one before the other?

f.ex.
  • Horizontal lines are the same for both chart types.
  • While diagonal trend lines have different results.
  • If you want to see overnight session its prettier on a tick

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