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Why get dedicated servers near CME if they trade CL, yet CL's exchange is is NYMEX?

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Why get dedicated servers near CME if they trade CL, yet CL's exchange is is NYMEX?

Why do people look for dedicated servers near the CME if they trade CL, yet CL's exchange is is NYMEX? Wouldn't it be better to have one's hosting in NY? Please forgive me if this is a stupid question... I am a newbie.

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CME bought NYMEX in 2008. I am not sure what NYMEX products orders are still routed and matched in New York. But CL electronic orders are routed and matched in Chicago through CME Globex.

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sounds like a trick question...

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Which products do you trade?

 
Thanks for your response.

I also learned that Nymex CL is part of the CME exchange complex.

The CME datacenter is located in Chicago, so Nymex is trading on the Chicago exchange - and the floor "pit" market is still in New York.

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I also learned that Nymex CL is part of the CME exchange complex.

The CME datacenter is located in Chicago, so Nymex is trading on the Chicago exchange - and the floor "pit" market is still in New York.

Thanks for the clarification on this. I am glad to now know this difference.

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Colocating in Chicago to trade NYMEX product?

To be clear, if I have some autotrading strategies trading CL (NYMEX), I should colocate my VPS in Chicago (Aurora), not New York (NJ)?

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To be clear, if I have some autotrading strategies trading CL (NYMEX), I should colocate my VPS in Chicago (Aurora), not New York (NJ)?

If your strategy is VERY latency sensitive then choose Aurora, for most Chicago (Cermak) would be fine.

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CME bought NYMEX in 2008. I am not sure what NYMEX products orders are still routed and matched in New York. But CL electronic orders are routed and matched in Chicago through CME Globex.

Many people don't know that ICE's Brent & Gasoil matching engines are in Chicago and not London!


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The CME datacenter is located in Chicago, so Nymex is trading on the Chicago exchange - and the floor "pit" market is still in New York.

The "pit" closes at the end of the year. So from that point onwards it will be Globex matching engine in Chicago only.


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To be clear, if I have some autotrading strategies trading CL (NYMEX), I should colocate my VPS in Chicago (Aurora), not New York (NJ)?

Well that depends how your order is routed. As already pointed out the Globex matching engine is in Chicago but if your broker's order servers/credit check or anything pre-trade is in New Jersey, New York or Connecticut etc, then being collocated in Chicago doesn't help you because your order has to go to NJ/NY/CT/etc first and then back to Chicago. If on the other hand your brokers order severs are in Chicago then yes it will be faster. As @mattz says though, Cermak (Huge datacenter in downtown Chicago, where ICE's matching engines are and where CME used to be), is a lot cheaper than Aurora (25 miles W of downtown Chicago, and home to the new CME data center) and the connectivity between the two is amazing.

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Well that depends how your order is routed. As already pointed out the Globex matching engine is in Chicago but if your broker's order servers/credit check or anything pre-trade is in New Jersey, New York or Connecticut etc,...

I'll add Florida (for TradeStation) and Nebraska (for DTN).

Being hosted in Aurora makes sense if everything is done locally (data, orders, risk management), with DMA and FPGA based boxes. Using a "normal" Linux or Windows server won't be able to play in the Ás field anyway.

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