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my point was that regulation is stated as a main and important difference between forex and futures and I think it is immaterial. People will disagree with or without regulation. Government is generally the grit in the machine.


The difference is that the exchange will not steal your money. Not all Forex brokers will, but the deep sea of unregulated Forex trading is quite treacherous.

Unless one can afford to trade the interbank market, I would stay away.

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maybe start here
MF Global - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

^ "CME Group Statement on MF Global in Good Standing at CME Clearing".
^ "ICE Confirms MF Global Remains in Good Standing". March 18, 2008.
^ "NYMEX Holdings, Inc. Statement Regarding Its Clearing Members and Financial Safeguards".
^ "CFTC Statement on MF Global".


regulated = safe
unregulated = dangerous
ok I think I got it now.


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I was referring to occurrences like this:
Videos of MetaTrader Manager, Administrator, virtual dealer and other plugins/setting

Do a search for your precious Forex brokers on the NFA website and let me know what you find.

Transparency is a good thing....

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"your" precious Forex brokers
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plug in manipulators
yes this has been around for a while maybe since the dawn of trading. Manipulation in trading....

re Transparency is a good thing....
yes so a push toward ECN, DMA type systems

Can we move on to the main question of does regulation save you from manipulation. We now have a few who say yes and examples which say no. So I'm gonna go start a 9mm vs .45 thread.... which one is better and why.

going fishing.... see you Monday

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yes so a push toward ECN, DMA type systems

ECNs are pretty dubious these days, as well. The Forex brokers are unscrupulous bastards!

If one has the account size for something like EBS, then that is great.

Unless there's a visible order book, I won't trade it.

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TMFT ok - please explain...

I was talking about a broker/dealing desk intentionally padding the prices just like what happened to the Pension funds who were suing the banks.

If making it illegal for a broker to do that ... is your idea of over regulation ... I know some Penny Stock people that would love to have you as a customer .....

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With FX ... how do you know if you are getting the correct market price ?

New York Sues BNY Mellon for $2B+ in ForEx Case

State Street Is Sued By Arkansas Fund - WSJ.com

know for sure. On MB you are often trading counter party with another customer. I guess it does not matter if I get the "correct" market because I am getting a price that I negotiated for or selected myself. But generally speaking the futures less the forward interest should be pretty close to the forex. NBBO in forex is a concept at best.

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ok
whadda I miss. Did everyone pick .45 for the zombie apocalypse...?
Today and what really matters. seriously off topic






umm aside from the penny stock jokes and dummies who get separated from their money examples isn't the real question can you beat 23% taxation with piece of mind ala the big boys and Double Irish With A Dutch Sandwich. iTax Avoidance - Why In America There Is No Representation Without "Double Irish With A Dutch Sandwich" Taxation | ZeroHedge

The rest of this A vs B seems like just hearsay and internet rumor and probably not useful other then 9mm vs .45 type of discussion filler. Keep more of your money is what matters. Safety issues are your decision not a third party. If you think regulators are here to help you.... hmmm

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so - Guatemala should be looked at strongly and I am am probably done here. really this time.

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You keep talking about regulations, but I want to reiterate that my point is about transparency. Either one can view the depth of market or not.

I also hate unnecessary regulations and bureaucracy, but, as an example, I'm glad there are laws against people taking my possessions and/or killing me. I'm especially glad for the latter; I'm sure I'm on the top of many's death lists...

I do find it strange that Americans aren't allowed to trade on the LMAX Exchange , but are allowed to open account with numerous bucket shops. That just doesn't make sense.

By the way, I also tried to go wakeboarding yesterday, but the ice made it difficult. You lucky bastard!

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ok
whadda I miss. Did everyone pick .45 for the zombie apocalypse...?
Today and what really matters. seriously off topic

umm aside from the penny stock jokes and dummies who get separated from their money examples isn't the real question can you beat 23% taxation with piece of mind ala the big boys and Double Irish With A Dutch Sandwich. iTax Avoidance - Why In America There Is No Representation Without "Double Irish With A Dutch Sandwich" Taxation | ZeroHedge

The rest of this A vs B seems like just hearsay and internet rumor and probably not useful other then 9mm vs .45 type of discussion filler. Keep more of your money is what matters. Safety issues are your decision not a third party. If you think regulators are here to help you.... hmmm

++++++++++++++

so - Guatemala should be looked at strongly and I am am probably done here. really this time.

Offshore Jurisdiction Comparison

Are we both posting in the same thread ....:wtf:


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You keep talking about regulations, but I want to reiterate that my point is about transparency. Either one can view the depth of market or not.


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