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Tape is my shape (tape reading, time and sales)

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 johnwooly 
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Great. What you have beeng doing to solve this problem?



Until now I've been trying to fight it by being aware when it's happening in live trading. Sometimes I have success, sometimes not.

I think this self sabotaging behaviour is the single most reason why retail traders fail.

Having read your posts I think there is something deeper in my psychological profile that needs resolving before I can trade with full potential.

I have thought about it and I think it is the following

1. I have alsways succeeded at what I have done
2. My father was hard task master, he would never say you did well so this meant you were always trying to do better and better. In fact I think it made me be fearful of doing bad.

Thinking about it I have a fear of doing bad and letting people down and I am cutting winners by fearing a loss and making losses worse by fearing the loss and hoping it turns positive.


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Until now I've been trying to fight it by being aware when it's happening in live trading. Sometimes I have success, sometimes not.

I think this self sabotaging behaviour is the single most reason why retail traders fail.

Yes it is. But it is not self sabotaging. You may think it is. But than you go DEEP you see that something bigger than trading success is there. You will see this on your own.


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Having read your posts I think there is something deeper in my psychological profile that needs resolving before I can trade with full potential.

Yes you do. Because you KNOW THE CORRECT behavior and you CAN NOT execute it. THis is not because you bad or good. This is not because you weak or strong. THis is because you forget but you will remeber.



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1. I have alsways succeeded at what I have done
2. My father was hard task master, he would never say you did well so this meant you were always trying to do better and better. In fact I think it made me be fearful of doing bad.

Thinking about it I have a fear of doing bad and letting people down and I am cutting winners by fearing a loss and making losses worse by fearing the loss and hoping it turns positive.


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I know you want to help and even feel you are helping than placing your thougths of what is there. But i worning you.
Better to stop doing this and let me drive the truck. Because you are afraid of this "problem" deep within and your "help" no more than attempts to run away so you providing me those roots hoping i will follow )))
No way ))
I know those tricks.

Think of that
You have a very GOOD REASONS to self sabotage yourself by doing such things which bothers you.
I want 5 reasons that self sbotage is good for you.
THink and wtire em down and than post here.

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Until now I've been trying to fight it by being aware when it's happening in live trading. Sometimes I have success, sometimes not.

I think this self sabotaging behaviour is the single most reason why retail traders fail.

Having read your posts I think there is something deeper in my psychological profile that needs resolving before I can trade with full potential.

I have thought about it and I think it is the following

1. I have alsways succeeded at what I have done
2. My father was hard task master, he would never say you did well so this meant you were always trying to do better and better. In fact I think it made me be fearful of doing bad.

Thinking about it I have a fear of doing bad and letting people down and I am cutting winners by fearing a loss and making losses worse by fearing the loss and hoping it turns positive.


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Yes it is. But it is not self sabotaging. You may think it is. But than you go DEEP you see that something bigger than trading success is there. You will see this on your own.


Yes you do. Because you KNOW THE CORRECT behavior and you CAN NOT execute it. THis is not because you bad or good. This is not because you weak or strong. THis is because you forget but you will remeber.



I know you want to help and even feel you are helping than placing your thougths of what is there. But i worning you.
Better to stop doing this and let me drive the truck. Because you are afraid of this "problem" deep within and your "help" no more than attempts to run away so you providing me those roots hoping i will follow )))
No way ))
I know those tricks.

Think of that
You have a very GOOD REASONS to self sabotage yourself by doing such things which bothers you.
I want 5 reasons that self sbotage is good for you.
THink and wtire em down and than post here.

Little hint. Change the words I CANT to the words I DO NOT WANT and let your feelings & em0tions talk
logic silently listen while your emotions talking
I DO NOT WANT and reasons why this good )

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 johnwooly 
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Little hint. Change the words I CANT to the words I DO NOT WANT and let your feelings & em0tions talk
logic silently listen while your emotions talking
I DO NOT WANT and reasons why this good )



I'm happy for you to lead me on this, first time I've ever looked deeply at this.

First task is to write five reasons why self sabotaging is good for me? That's hard but I'll try.


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 johnwooly 
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1 5 5 9 5

To answer questions on that thread. Taking a loss is hard for me.


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1 5 5 9 5

To answer questions on that thread. Taking a loss is hard for me.


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Does this task about 5 reasons so complicated you can not complete it?

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 johnwooly 
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Does this task about 5 reasons so complicated you can not complete it?



I didn't understand the question 100% --

5 reasons why self sabotaging is good?


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I didn't understand the question 100% --

5 reasons why self sabotaging is good?


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Forget about this. Doesnt metter))

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