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Questons about TOS

I have never used TOS. I trade futures only. I was watching a webinar last night from 2015 (I think) from ShadowTrader about market internals and he was using TOS.

My questions are:

(1) with their $50 minimum to open an account does that include live, real time futures data across different things (ES, Eurex stuff like DAX, $TICK, S&P 500 cash, etc)?

(2) Does TOS have a watchlist feature?

(3) Does anyone hear just use TOS for the purpose of charts, data, but execute on Jigsaw or another DOM software?

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1) Their website says there is no minimum to open an account. Market data access is pretty comprehensive. You get stocks, futures, options, indices, internals, and fx. There are no market data fees, which is nice, but their commissions are higher than others.

2) Yes.

3) I currently chart on TOS and execute on NT. I tried to make the full transition to NT due to the lower commissions, but I found the TOS charting style to more intuitive and user friendly.

If you have questions about TOS, I would encourage you to call their customer support, which is very good. You can also open a paper trading account that will give you delayed data, if you want to get a feel for their platform.

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I have never used TOS. I trade futures only. I was watching a webinar last night from 2015 (I think) from ShadowTrader about market internals and he was using TOS.

My questions are:

(1) with their $50 minimum to open an account does that include live, real time futures data across different things (ES, Eurex stuff like DAX, $TICK, S&P 500 cash, etc)?

(2) Does TOS have a watchlist feature?

(3) Does anyone hear just use TOS for the purpose of charts, data, but execute on Jigsaw or another DOM software?

You can open a TOS account without funding but the data is delayed. I called them and asked them if they could give me real-time data for practicing on "paper".

One word of caution though. Their paper money mode is a bit misleading since you automatically get filled when price touches your order (unlike true trading where you are sitting in a queue and may not get filled when your order price level is reached). For live trading I would imagine you could use TOS charting with any other system to fill (I did use it with demo NT and am currently using it as well as Sierra Charts with Infinity Futures.)

Also, their lookback mode (for practicing when market hours are closed) is pretty horrible as I find the DOM prices do not coincide with the chart pricing rendering it useless.

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I have never used TOS. I trade futures only. I was watching a webinar last night from 2015 (I think) from ShadowTrader about market internals and he was using TOS.

My questions are:

(1) with their $50 minimum to open an account does that include live, real time futures data across different things (ES, Eurex stuff like DAX, $TICK, S&P 500 cash, etc)?

(2) Does TOS have a watchlist feature?

(3) Does anyone hear just use TOS for the purpose of charts, data, but execute on Jigsaw or another DOM software?

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IMO...

if you are going to use someone "just for charts" @NinjaTrader is simply the best, most flexible chart platform available, period. I wish I was using them still....the best.

The ToS DOM is pretty good and it's reliable, but NT is better for DOM IMO.

I do not know about any minimums for anything, sorry. TD Ameritrade Operations Dept is 800-669-3900

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does that include data [for] ES, Eurex stuff like DAX, $TICK, S&P 500 cash, etc)?

Everything on your list except Eurex products. no ICE products. some of the thinner commodity products are no longer available, but unless you're a farmer, who cares? Everything is included in commish, including a static DOM. (static being preferable to dynamic, imo)


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(2) watchlist...

yes and lots of tools to manipulate it.


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(3) Does anyone [here] just use TOS for the purpose of charts, data, but execute on Jigsaw or another DOM software?

Nope. I've not had many execution problems with TOS in the past few years. TDA has done a good job with the backroom. Be aware that TOS charts are generated in their backroom while NT8 are generated on your local machine. Also, you'll have to carry the maintenance margin at TOS.

If you want to trade options, TOS execution is excellent.

If you use drawings to trade, then TOS is far superior to NT8 when it comes to workload. For this reason, I use TOS 95% of the time.

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